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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 16 March 2025 (UTC) [1].[reply]
- Nominator(s): VirreFriberg (talk) 23:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because who doesn't love reading the discography of a niché continental European pop band who have been defunct for well-over half a decade? --VirreFriberg (talk) 23:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Image needs alt-text for accessibility.
- Source link to the image works fine for WP:V, caption and image is appropriate, license is correct.
- label in in September 1964., guessing there's double words that needs one of them to be omitted.
- (equal to ($415,426 in 2023), formatting needs to be fixed here as the parentheses are off.
- a sum previously unheard by a Swedish pop group., "unheard of"?
- top-10, remove the hyphen in mentions of "top-10" to make it more formal.
- In preperation for a potential international breakthrough, should be "preparation".
- compilation album Tages, 1964-68!, a period should be placed on the end. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one.
- @VirreFriberg:, here are my comments. Arconning (talk) 11:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @Arconning! Thank you for the suggestions! I've revided the article based on the points you've mentioned here.. VirreFriberg (talk) 19:28, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Arconning (talk) 00:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- There is a harv error that a script gives me saying that link from CITEREFBrandelsWrigström2012 doesn't point to any citation.
- There are 4 more harv errors about CITEREFBrandelsWrigström2012.
- Why is Blond bolded?
- The article seems to keep saying they came back. It says this in "originally professionally active" and "their original tenure". Is this referring to when there music got rereleased because I cant find anything saying they were active past 1970 in making new music?
- The members of the band should probably be listed in the lede. An example of this is the article Kittie discography, where it says "formed in 1996 by guitarist and vocalist Morgan Lander, guitarist Fallon Bowman and drummer Mercedes Lander."
- "Swedish rock quintet from Gothenburg" -> "Swedish rock band from Gothenburg" There were not always 5 members.
- Ping me when done please. I may have more. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC) History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042 Done. Thanks for the feedback! VirreFriberg (talk) 10:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @VirreFriberg, there are still three harv errors. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:15, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- my fault, @History6042. The accidental misspelling (Wrigström) in the citations have been replaced by the correct name (Wrigholm). VirreFriberg (talk) 13:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @VirreFriberg, there is still one on Wiremark 1994, p. 21. History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:11, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042 Thanks, changed now! VirreFriberg (talk) 14:34, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Good job, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:41, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042 Thanks, changed now! VirreFriberg (talk) 14:34, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @VirreFriberg, there is still one on Wiremark 1994, p. 21. History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:11, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- my fault, @History6042. The accidental misspelling (Wrigström) in the citations have been replaced by the correct name (Wrigholm). VirreFriberg (talk) 13:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @VirreFriberg, there are still three harv errors. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:15, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042 Done. Thanks for the feedback! VirreFriberg (talk) 10:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "Tages posing with a copy of their debut single "Sleep Little Girl" (1964)." - this isn't a sentence so it should not have a full stop
- "were originally professionally active between 1963 and 1970." - why "originally"? That suggests they returned to being active later, but nothing here or in their article suggests that
- "During their original tenure," - same
- "with two of them, Tages (1965) and Tages 2 (1966) selling" => "with two of them, Tages (1965) and Tages 2 (1966), selling"
- "Tages' popularity started diminishing, charting their final top 10 single in February 1968" => "Tages' popularity started diminishing, and they charted their final top 10 single in February 1968"
- "five final singles" => "final five singles"
- "causing singles by Tages' released in the UK" - no reason for apostrophe on their name
- "Tages' founded their own" - same
- "founded their own publishing company Segat AB during" => "founded their own publishing company, Segat AB, during"
- "who assured that" => "which ensured that"
- "his caused Jakobsson to issue archival material by Tages' on Platina" - again, no reason for apostrophe on their name
- "his Tages' Platina masters to EMI" - same
- who were putting together the compilation album Tages, 1964-68!. - as the title already ends with a punctuation mark it should not have an additional full stop after it
- "containing almost every recording by Tages' under that name" - again, no reason for apostrophe on their name
- "was reissued in with a new catalogue number" - is there a word missing after "in"?
- Also the catalogue number should be before the full stop and ref
- "As Blond." - not a sentence so should not have a full stop
- "Recorded live on 11 November 1965 at Radiohuset, Stockholm and 9 August 1966 for Opopoppa on Sveriges Radio P3." - not a sentence so should not have a full stop
- Compilations table needs an explanation for the x
- "Unauthorized release by Platina Records after Tages signed with Parlophone Records in January 1967." - not a sentence so should not have a full stop
- " The Best of Tages was reissued in with a new catalogue number." - is there a word missing after "in"?
- Also the catalogue number should be before the full stop and ref
- "Danish-only release." - not a sentence so should not have a full stop
- "Released as part of the EMI compilation series A-Sidor, Några B-Sidor, LP-Spår & Lite Annat! which included albums by Hep Stars, Ola and the Janglers and the Shanes." - not a sentence so should not have a full stop
- The same goes for notes E, F, H and I
- "Unauthorized release by Platina Records after Tages signed with Parlophone Records in January 1967." - not a sentence so should not have a full stop
- Under the singles table, the following notes are not sentences so should not have full stops: D, F, G, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, X, Y, Z, AA, AB, AC
- Footnote 1 should not have a full stop
- In footnote 2, there should not be a hyphen in "top 20"
- In footnote 3, "it's" should be written in full as "it is"
- Flexi disc should not have a capital F
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the feedback, @ChrisTheDude! I've revided the article after your points! VirreFriberg (talk) 10:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 16 March 2025 (UTC) [2].[reply]
- Nominator(s): IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 02:47, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I think it's an important topic. All sources should either be available through TWL, open source, or scihub. For each entry I tried to find at least one source stating that the individual had ties to Nazism. The reason I did not include a photo is because the lead is on the shorter side and adding a photo made the format weird. All of my bundled citations are done in the following order: general citation for the entry, citation for the description, citation for the Nazi associations. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 02:47, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for doing this. I really like the table formatting and the new references. If there's anything I think could stand to be tweaked, I think the lead could flow better. I am not going to jump in immediately with suggestions, but will be mulling over how I think it could be improved. Certainly, it gets the job done appropriately with your addition... I just have a sense that it could be even better with some tweaking. Jclemens (talk) 03:18, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jclemens I've rearranged the lead a bit to make it more clear on what the article is about. Otherwise, I always struggle with prose and making things "flow" so I wouldn't be suprised if there was some work to be done there. Thanks for the feedback! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:10, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OlifanofmrTennant
- Since the citations are bundled “ref” should probably be “ref(s)”
- The "Named after column needs to sort alphabetically
- Table needs a caption
- Under "Wegener's granulomatosis" link "Reich Air Protection League" to "Reichsluftschutzbund"
"While Stoeckel was not a direct participant in the Nazi's [crimes against humanity], he assisted with the [Nazi regime|Nazi Germany]." Nazi should be linked on the first mention and crimes against humanity should probably link to German war crimes.
- This list made me sad, ping me when done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed to refs
- Named after is sorted alphebetically however Hallervorden-Spatz syndrome is named after both Hallervorden and Spatz so I merged those two collums which can be seen more clearly in this revision.
- What should the caption be? I feel like the subheading is pretty clear hence why I didn't add a caption.
- Added the wikilink
- I'll change the wikilink but Nazi is linked elsewhere I believe.
- Thanks for the feedback, OlifanofmrTennant. This article was really eye opening and sad to make. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 19:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- As an aside, The Nazi Doctors is a fascinatingly well written book that is just horrifying to read. I highly recommend it. Jclemens (talk) 09:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Following up to see if all your concerns have been addressed and you're ready to support the nom @OlifanofmrTennant. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Named after column should sort based on surname, not forename
- "the Nazi's scientific practices" => "the Nazis' scientific practices"
- " direct participant in the Nazi's crimes against humanity, - same here
- "he assisted with the Nazi regime" => "he assisted the Nazi regime"
- "such as the National Socialist German Workers' Party, the Storm Troopers, and the Reich Air Protection League, before World War II" - no reason for comma before "before"
- "Rare fungal infection of the skin, usually affecting premature babies." - this isn't a sentence so it doesn't need a full stop
- Same goes for almost every other cell in that column
- "that doesn't have cilia or mucus and helps with secretion." - "does not" should be written in full -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- How do I switch it to be sorted by surname? Do I just have to put "Lastname, Firstname" instead?
- You would use a sorting template, so for example type {{sortname|Hans|Asperger}}. This will display Hans Asperger as normal but it will sort based on A, not H -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done @ChrisTheDude, thank you. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 19:09, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done
- Done
- Done
- Removed comma
- Removed the period for Cauchois-Eppinger-Frugoni syndrome, Spatz-Stiefler reaction, Beck-Ibrahim disease, Reiter's disease, Goebell-Stoeckel-Frangenheim operation, Kelly-Stoeckel suture, and Schauta-Stoeckel operation. I'm unsure about the rest of them.
- How do I switch it to be sorted by surname? Do I just have to put "Lastname, Firstname" instead?
- Thank you for the feedback, ChrisTheDude! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 01:32, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- Are there any sources for the replacement term column? If not please add them.
- Named after column should sort the surname and not the given name.
- Everything that is not a sentence in the meaning column doesn't need a period.
- "in Breslau, Silesia he participated" ->. "in Breslau, Silesia, he participated"
- "Nazi's" -> "Nazis'"
- "Wegner made oaths of allegiance to Adolf Hitler saying" -> "Wegner made oaths of allegiance to Adolf Hitler saying"
- You use two spellings of the name Wegener, Wegener and Wegner. Please make these consistent.
- Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:34, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Sources for the replacement term are either included in the first citation (the source for inclusion on the list) or in some cases, the second source (source for the description).
- I'm unsure how to do this, do I just change it to surname, forename instead?
- I think I got most of those but let me know
- Changed to Nazis'
- Done
- Corrected to Wegener.
- Thanks for the feedback History6042 IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 01:39, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- To sort them see Help:Sortable tables#Specifying a sort key for a cell. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:41, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done @History6042 IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 17:55, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Good job, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:59, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done @History6042 IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 17:55, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- To sort them see Help:Sortable tables#Specifying a sort key for a cell. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:41, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jclemens
Germany lost many scientists as a result of the persecution of Jewish people, and others, during World War II.
This is somewhat of a non-sequitur, as the loss of Jewish physicians and scientists, while horrific, doesn't really matter to this list. One could argue that German physicians took credit for the work of exiled, imprisoned, or slain Jewish physicians, but that's not really the point of this list. The first paragraph of the lead reads just fine without it.Eponyms can be helpful to assist doctors and medical students recall and recognize the condition.
This doesn't have a citation, and I'm not really sure this is a key feature of eponyms. I think it takes the focus off of "We are not memorializing these Nazi names and here's why" to "eponyms are great overall but..." when I don't think the case has been made adequately. Jclemens (talk) 10:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]- The point of that bit is to establish part of the reasons why German researchers (specifically Nazi's) were so prevelant at the time and provide some historical context. I'm also going to say that it does matter because these disorders very well could have been discovered by Jewish researchers but weren't due to circumstances. However I'm willing to change this I just wanted to give my perspective.
- That setence does have a citation. The source text says
Eponyms also play a valuable role in aiding both medical student and physician in remembering and identifying the disorder
[3] (first page, first para). However I do get your point so I'm going to remove it.
- Thanks for the feedback, @Jclemens I really appreciate it! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Following up to see if all your concerns have been addressed and you're ready to support the nom @Jclemens. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I'm happy with the improvements and have no objections to promotion, sorry. Jclemens (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Following up to see if all your concerns have been addressed and you're ready to support the nom @Jclemens. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Generalissima
I agreed to do a source review for this! First time working with MEDRS; though this seems to be less intense here since this is mainly historical and social context.
- SFNs are consistently used.
- Some journals lack ISSNs. Either put them on all journals, or remove them from all.
- Titles are inconsistent in capitalization. Generally you want to make sure they're consistent with each-other rather than consistent with the capitalization used by each source.
- Beyond Philology an International Journal is missing a colon, and the "An" also needs to be capitalized. You also need a capital after the colon in the titles of Winkelmann 2010, Elitt & Tesar 2024, and Miller 2012
- Czech 2018 should probably have single quotation marks instead of double around "race hygiene", since the title itself is in quotation marks
- Does Journal of Neural Transmission (Vienna, Austria: 1996) need the parenthetical clarification if you give the ISSN? It's not called that in the source, so it's probably best to just use Journal of Neural Transmission.
- You have locations for a couple citations, but not many. I'd recommend removing them to be consistent.
That's all for formatting. I'll do spotchecks soon! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks @Generalissima I know MEDRS can be scary but downloading User:Headbomb/unreliable if you don't already have it, checking the type of study (primary, secondary etc), the publisher, and the date (make sure that recent sources are used if needed) is the main points. I'm sure you know this all but I thought I'd put that out there in case you're feeling a little lost with how huge the MEDRS page is.
- Removed ISSNs as they are generally not super informative
- Adjusted Captilization to be lowercase since that was the majority
- Done with the captilizations after colons (why do we have the same name for an organ and punctuation?)
- Probably doesn't need that bit, I will remove it
- The only citations that have locations are the books if that changes anything.
- Thanks so much for the feedback! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:06, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Following up to see if all your concerns have been addressed and you're ready to support the nom @Generalissima. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I forgot this never got finished - I didn't find anything out of place in the spot check, so happy to support. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:05, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Following up to see if all your concerns have been addressed and you're ready to support the nom @Generalissima. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN 16:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @PresN Thanks I didn't know this. I put
|+{{sronly|caption_text List of medical eponyms with Nazi associations}}
. Should that work? IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 18:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]- Close, I fixed it- you should just do
|+{{sronly|List of medical eponyms with Nazi associations}}
, you don't keep the "caption_text" part. --PresN 01:50, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Close, I fixed it- you should just do
- @PresN Thanks I didn't know this. I put
Promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC) [4].[reply]
- Nominator(s): -- EN-Jungwon 06:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the seventh list in this series that I am nominating. The format is similar to the previous six that have been promoted to featured status. Looking forward to your comments. -- EN-Jungwon 06:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "Aespa (pictured) received their first ever music show win with their Inkigayo trophy " - there's a duplicated word there
- "The chart measured" => "In 2021, the chart measured"
- "18 music acts received an award trophy for this feat" - I don't think the word "music" is needed as no other type of act can top the chart
- Twice and Aespa are both linked multiple times in the lead
- "The single spent three non consecutive weeks at number one and achieved a triple crown." - assuming this refers to "Savage", change it to "The lattersingle spent three non consecutive weeks at number one and achieved a triple crown."
- "The single also spent three non consecutive weeks at number one " => "The single spent three non-consecutive weeks at number one "
- "Other first time number one artist include "Stray Kids"" => "Other first-time number one artist included Stray Kids" (no need for quote marks round the group name)
- Where it's used as an adjective eg in "a number one single", "a number one artist", etc, it needs a hyphen. Not when it's used as a noun though eg "they had their first number one"
- "IU (pictured) earned three Inkigayo Triple Crowns in 2021 for her singles "Celebrity", "Lilac," and "Strawberry Moon," respectively." - "(pictured)" isn't needed as it's obvious that she is the person pictured, and you also don't need the word "respectively"
- Other photo captions where just one act is shown also don't need "(pictured)"
- That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:09, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude, I have made the changes you have suggested. I'm unsure of the eight point you made about the hyphens. Could you please clarify that for me. Thanks for the review. -- EN-Jungwon 09:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Re: point 8, see this edit. Now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:18, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Matthewrb
- Question: Is there a way to move the leade image with the imagemap into the infobox? It's very odd to have an image right below an infobox. If not, no worries.
- The artist (G)I-dle should sort based on the G and not the parenthesis.
- The alt text needs to be expanded. Per MOS:ALT, the alt text should describe the image for visually impaired users, and the alt text in this list doesn't do that.
Mostly minor nitpics, this is a good list. ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 22:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Matthewrb I've fixed the sorting and expanded the alt text. I tried to move the whole imagemap into the infobox but there seems to be issues with setting the image size. I tried using the
|image_size
parameter but the image size doesn't change at all. From my testing, the only way to make it work is to remove the imagemap. Thanks for the review. -- EN-Jungwon 09:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]- No problem, it was a question and shouldn't block this nomination. Support ~ Matthewrb Let's connect · Here to help 15:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Review by History6042
- The table needs a caption. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:53, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042, done. Thanks for catching that. -- EN-Jungwon 10:15, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I have got some more.
- The total possible number of points should probably be mentioned.
- "The single spent three non-consecutive weeks at number one and achieved a triple crown." seems unsourced.
- Same with "In July they had another number-one single with "Chi Mat Ba Ram"."
- Same with "All three singles spent a total of nine weeks at number one making IU the artist with the most number ones of the year."
- Ping when done please. I am not sure if another source covers the unsourced statements but I can't see anything about a reference for weeks spent at number one. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @EN-Jungwon for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:30, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry for the late reply. Will try and get this resolved by the end of the week. -- EN-Jungwon 06:04, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Just pinging to see if you had time to get address all the points @EN-Jungwon. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:52, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042, I've addressed the first three points. For the sentence about the most weeks spent at number one, I couldn't find a source specifically stating that, but since everything is sourced in the table can't we just count them as suggested in WP:COUNTSORT? -- EN-Jungwon 10:25, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, we can, I forgot about WP:COUNTSORT. Support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC) [5].[reply]
- Nominator(s): Min968 (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After the first failure, I made some adjustments. Min968 (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- The "Ming dynasty (1368–1644)" as a separate row violates MOS:COLHEAD
- The image cell shouldn't be the header cell of the row. The "Emperor name" cell would be better for that.
- The table is missing its caption.
- Images are missing alt text.
- That's all I got. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 16:13, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: Done. Min968 (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: Having the image cell second makes it inconsistent with the recent FL List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty, though. What's the policy or guideline behind this change? SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- First cell and header cell are different things. By header cell I meant the cell that has "! scope=row" before its contents. This should be the name cell and not the image cell, IMO. Min968 has already done this. One of you can reorder the columns to whatever makes sense in terms of consistency and/or readability. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: Having the image cell second makes it inconsistent with the recent FL List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty, though. What's the policy or guideline behind this change? SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: Done. Min968 (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- SilverTiger's comments
- ruled over China proper from 1368 to 1644 during the late imperial era of China (221 BC – 1912). According to the article you link to, Late imperial China started in 960 AD, not 221 BC.
- Link rump state?
- the Ming dynasty followed the Mongol-led Yuan dynasty and preceded the Manchu-led Qing dynasty. Mild nitpick, but I think saying "succeeded the Mongol-led..".
- Of sixteen Ming emperors, fourteen resided in the Forbidden City, a 72 ha (180-acre) complex of palaces and buildings in Beijing. Prior to 1420, the emperors' residence was located in a similar complex in Nanjing. I think you should expand on this a bit: it seems to be implying that emperor #2 or 3 built a new palace and/or moved the capital? Which seems like a singularly significant event during the dynasty.
- Multiple times, you use a Chinese word (Tianzi, Da Ming, etc.). These should be wrapped in the {{transl}} template.
- You mention the what reign, posthumous, and temple names are, but then in the table there's two posthumous names given for each emperor, one short and one long. What's up with those?
- Consider combining notes b, c, and e to more thoroughly explain what happened. After the Jianwen Emperor died in a palace fire, the Yongle Emperor ascended to the throne. In an attempt to diminish the legacy of his predecessor, he chose not to give him a temple or posthumous name.[31] Additionally, he retroactively abolished the Jianwen era and extended the Hongwu era in its place.[32] However, the temple name Huizong was given to the Jianwen Emperor long after his reign by Zhu Yousong, the Prince of Fu, in 1644; the posthumous name Emperor Gongmin Hui was given to the him by the Qianlong Emperor in 1736.[29]
- If, during his second reign, Zhu Qiyu was called the Tianshun Emperor and not the Yingxong Emperor again, Tianshun should be the name in the first column.
- So based on your explanation of how the era names work, Zhu Changfang was regent in the Hongguang era after the Hongguang emperor died. Then the Longwu Emperor came of age (??) and began the Longwu era. Then Longwu died and the Shaowu Emperor took over, but died before he could start the Shaowu era. My question is, why does the regent Zhu Yihai after Shaowu claim to be part of the Hongguang era- shouldn't that be the Longwu era?
- This is necessary to answer, but who gave the Yongli Emperor his temple and posthumous names, since he was the last of his dynasty?
That's all for now. SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @SilverTiger12: Done. Min968 (talk) 13:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have a few more questions. SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You didn't respond to this: If, during his second reign, Zhu Qiyu was called the Tianshun Emperor and not the Yingxong Emperor again, Tianshun should be the name in the first column.
- @SilverTiger12: In my opinion, there is no need for modification as it is clear and easy to understand that Zhu Qizhen ruled twice. Min968 (talk) 00:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not the point; the point is that his sovereign name- the first cell of the row- is currently inaccurate because he had a second sovereign name for his second rule. SilverTiger12 (talk) 00:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @SilverTiger12 Here, Zhu Qizhen is referred to by his temple name, so it is still correct in this case. Min968 (talk) 01:16, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Why did you completely remove the part about the change of palace?
- Fixed.
Alright, I support this nomination. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 02:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042's Review
- All images need alt text, but currently none of them have them outside of the tables.
- In the Hongwu Emperor's life details section, there should be a period after natural causes.
- "including the Porcelain Tower of Nanjing, Yongle Encyclopedia and the Ming treasure voyages." You should remove the the in front of Ming treasure voyages.
- "Focused primarily on domestic affairs. Died of natural causes" needs a period.
- "Also a noted painter. Died of natural causes" needs a period.
- "and allow the influence of eunuchs to grow." should be "and allowed the influence of eunuchs to grow."
- "Suppress the Rebellion of Cao Qin" should be "Suppressed the Rebellion of Cao Qin".
- "and abolish the practice" should be "and abolished the practice".
- In the Emperor Yingzong (second reign) section, there needs to be a period after natural causes.
- "Died of natural causes" in the Chenghua Emperor section needs a period.
- "Died of natural causes" in the Hongzhi Emperor section needs a period.
- "possibly due to alchemical elixir poisoning" needs a period.
- "Died of natural causes" in the Longqing Emperor section needs a period.
- "Died of natural causes" in the Wanli Emperor section needs a period.
- "possibly murdered by poison" needs a period.
- "Died from an unknown illness" needs a period.
- "Executed by the Qing dynasty" needs a period.
- "Surrendered to the Qing dynasty, later executed" needs a period.
- Both instances of "Captured and killed by the Qing forces" need a period. I also don't think that the the is necessary in either.
- "Committed suicide after being captured by the Qing forces" needs a period. I also don't think that the the is necessary.
- "Died of natural causes" in the Zhu Yihai section needs a period.
- If those are all fixed then I support on grammar, prose, and imagery. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:40, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042: All done. Min968 (talk) 03:15, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Toadspike
I am happy to see that this has been re-nominated. This isn't a full review yet, please ping me if I don't comment again within a week.
- "According to the Hongwu Emperor's Ancestral Instructions, the successor to the throne was always the eldest son of the emperor and empress, or his heir, followed by younger sons of the empress. However, sons of concubines were excluded from the line of succession. It was a strict rule that conservative officials strongly insisted on following." – This part has several grammar/wording issues.
- "successor to the throne" is wikilinked to Taizi, but the Taizi was the crown prince, not necessarily the successor (the Taizi could die before succeeding to the throne, for instance). Replacing "successor" with "heir" would fix this.
- I would remove "However," since what follows does not contradict what came before.
- The last sentence is awkward, I suggest "Conservative officials strongly insisted on following this strict rule." And, if you have the sources to back this up, I would add "throughout the Ming era" onto the end of that sentence, since it is most remarkable not that they insisted at all, but that they insisted over many generations.
- "his daily audiences" – as far as I know, they did not always occur daily, even though they were perhaps supposed to take place daily. I am not sure if this is worth clarifying, though. Might be too much detail.
- "Briefly ruled while his brother was held captive" – I would remove "briefly" here, seven years is quite long and several shorter reigns on this list are not called "brief".
- I've made some grammar fixes in the Life details column, which should be entirely in past tense.
- @Toadspike: The points above have been revised. Min968 (talk) 10:28, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @Toadspike for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the ping, and thank you Min for addressing the changes I suggested. It might be a day or two before I can give the list a thorough look-over again, but I do still hope to do so. Toadspike [Talk] 09:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm very sorry that I still haven't gotten around to this – I have been fairly busy IRL recently. I will note that Min has addressed the list of issues above to my satisfaction, and I would really like to provide a source review of this (since it looks like one is needed) but I cannot guarantee that I have the time.
- In the meantime, the phrase "who were all members of the House of Zhu" in the first sentence is odd. I suggest moving it down, perhaps right after "The Ming dynasty was founded by the peasant rebel leader Zhu Yuanzhang, known as the Hongwu Emperor.", as a new sentence, like "All Ming emperors were of the House of Zhu" or something like that. Toadspike [Talk] 19:42, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Toadspike Thank you. I have revised it as you suggested. Min968 (talk) 02:13, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the ping, and thank you Min for addressing the changes I suggested. It might be a day or two before I can give the list a thorough look-over again, but I do still hope to do so. Toadspike [Talk] 09:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TheUzbek
- Support I fixed the few problems I saw, but the list is good, and the text is good. However, a tip: don't write sentences such as "A weak ruler" or "A wise ruler"... That is not WP's job. We are supposed to be neutral. --TheUzbek (talk) 10:41, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Kinda felt it was clear; I deem all the sources to confirm to Wikipedia's guidelines. TheUzbek (talk) 11:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed (as much as I can verify); promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because following the successful promotions at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive2 in July, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive1 in November and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Men's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive1 today, I think this is a good candidate. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- MPGuy2824
- For consistency, the years that Leah Esposito got this honor need to be mentioned in the last paragraph of the lead.
- Both Gong and Exposito were 2016 and 2017 winners. Text clarified.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Every row needs a header cell, in this case the year. See your previous FLs for formatting.
- Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In the single program table, the "University division" has a list of names. I guess you meant "University division winner".
- Good eye.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Taking the Four-division era table as an example, the column names are a bit weird. I think having Div I, Div II, Div III and "College/NAIA" as colgroups with "winner, school and sport" as columns under each of them would be better. The same applies to the first two tables also.
- OK.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "Names in bold indicate winners of the all-sports Academic All-America award." This isn't needed in this list.
- Thx.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The sport names are wikilinked in table 1, but not in table 2
- Linked.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In table 3 all the sport names need to be wikilinked since the table is sortable.
- Linked-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the refs are missing archive links.
- Is there an archive bot I can call upon?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Found the bot.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there an archive bot I can call upon?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Convert the title of ref 7 (MIT DISTANCE RUNNER...) to sentence case. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed my mind, sorry. In the "Single program" table, it doesn't make sense to say "University Division Winner", since there was only one division; just "Winner" will do.
- Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:29, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You are still missing some archive links, which the bot wasn't able to handle. You might have to resort to manual archiving and/or addition of the archive urls to the various refs.
- I was only able to find archives for about half of the unarchived pages.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Please ping me here when you are done. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support on prose and table accessibility, -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- "recognizes combined athletic and academic" -> "recognizes the combined athletic and academic"
- "Men's and women's basketball," -> "men's and women's basketball,"
- "has one Academic All-American of the Year" -> "have one Academic All-American of the Year"
- "in the College Division both in 2016" -> "in the College Division, both in 2016"
- All of the above are completed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Many of the sources need to be archived. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:44, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- All pages that have archived versions at Internet Archive have been archived.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Please ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824 and History6042:, I have put in a request on meta, which seems to be the proper place to discuss this bot. I am not sure what else to do.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:39, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you always have the option of manually archiving and then adding the archive urls to the refs yourself. But, that would be a blocker during source review, not for prose/accessibility support. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there going to be a new standard that you have to archive all refs?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:59, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
- Spot checks check out
- A few things are still missing archives
- Is this a new requirement? Is 100% required?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:21, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Dates are inconsistently formatted
- I found 1 date that was inconsistently formatted.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:01, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Links are inconsistently formatted
- Can you provide some clarification in this regard?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:20, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Refs 49 and 50 shouldnt be academicallamerica.com
- website=academicallamerica.com-->publisher=College Sports Communicators--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:05, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't believe copyright symbols should be included in the title
- I believe you are talking about the registered trademark symbol.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- removed 43 instances-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:12, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe you are talking about the registered trademark symbol.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That's what I got ping me when done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging OlifanofmrTennant for follow-up, unclear if this is sorted out. --PresN 18:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- '''Supprot''' Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging OlifanofmrTennant for follow-up, unclear if this is sorted out. --PresN 18:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TheDoctorWho
- United States and Canada can probably be delinked in the Infobox as common countries and the guidance at MOS:OVERLINK
- done.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd also like to suggest overriding that short description to none (WP:SDNONE) as "Award" (assumingly auto-generated by the infobox) feels less descriptive than the article title would be
- I am not sure what short description you were intending to override, but I added "Student athlete award"-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:14, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The first paragraph feels very WALLOFTEXT-ish (I realize that was originally about discussion pages), but can it be broken up into something smaller?
- I have split it.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:34, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Any particular reason why some of the sports are linked in the second paragraph, but not others (swimming, diving, tennis)?
- Those two sports were just added as seperate awards 2 years ago. Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:54, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Would footnote a be better suited after "College/NAIA" rather than after "Winner"?
- Thanks.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:36, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Is the single note under the last table enough of a "description list" to bypass MOS:PSEUDOHEAD? (This one is a legitimate question for myself as well.)
- It seems WP:FA Timeless (Meghan Trainor album), which also has a single note, gave it a separate section.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:55, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Wouldn't "References" or "Citations" be a better section header than "Notes"?
- Based on what I see at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/February 2025, I guess you are right on this point.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:44, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A few questions/suggestions here, but I truly don't have much to say here. Nice work! TheDoctorWho (talk) 08:31, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good! Happy to support.
- i TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:22, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dicklyon
I don't understand the Overall in the lead, capped and bolded. Where it's lowercase in the text, the FAQ ref didn't seem to mention "overall". I see this Overall came in with a "minor" edit in 2023, when the lead said something different. Generally, the lead is pretty uninterpretable, compared to how it started some years ago.
- User:Dicklyon, Does the split improve the lead for you?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:28, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- User:TonyTheTiger – Why not just remove the word "overall"; its history and refs don't indicate any good reason for it. Dicklyon (talk) Dicklyon (talk) 22:46, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I only removed it from the opening paragraph. It is clarifying in its later appearance.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:50, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- User:TonyTheTiger – Why not just remove the word "overall"; its history and refs don't indicate any good reason for it. Dicklyon (talk) Dicklyon (talk) 22:46, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Many of the sources mention "Academic All-America of the Year", but not "Team Members". If that was added by Wikipedians to make a descriptive title, why is it capitalized? And "All-District honorees" seems to be out of the blue; and why no hyphen in "first-term" in "first team All-District honorees"? It's not parsable without it.
- User:TonyTheTiger – And if "Team Members" is needed as something for the "All-America" brand to modify, it should be lowercase, yes? Dicklyon (talk) 22:49, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I am wondering if the use of the term in the article titles since 2018 is mirroring use on WP. It is unclear to me what the proper capitalization should be. All-America is an intellectual property, but Team Member seems to be part of the title of the award in recent years.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:00, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Please comment on this.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:58, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Track & Field and Cross Country are sometimes over-capitalized in the tables.
- Since the tables are sortable, we have linked redundantly.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:30, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @TonyTheTiger: I don't see how this reply relates to my comments. Is it in the wrong place? Dicklyon (talk) 23:53, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I carelessly misassociated over capitalized as overly linked. I'll have a look at this later.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking more closely, it seems that sometimes they are not capitalized in the tables when other sports seem to always be capitalized. Are you suggesting that the first word should only be capitalized when it is capitalized? I think I have made them all consistent with the first word capitalized and the second not. I also used the ampersand for Track & field.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:16, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, table entries are usually done in sentence case, never in title case. And see my first couple of comments above on other issues. Dicklyon (talk) 11:10, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking more closely, it seems that sometimes they are not capitalized in the tables when other sports seem to always be capitalized. Are you suggesting that the first word should only be capitalized when it is capitalized? I think I have made them all consistent with the first word capitalized and the second not. I also used the ampersand for Track & field.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:16, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I carelessly misassociated over capitalized as overly linked. I'll have a look at this later.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @TonyTheTiger: I don't see how this reply relates to my comments. Is it in the wrong place? Dicklyon (talk) 23:53, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Other than that, looks like a fine list. Dicklyon (talk) 10:35, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dicklyon and TonyTheTiger: This nomination seems to have stalled a bit; are the concerns here addressed? --PresN 18:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, yes, I'm OK with Tony's changes per my comments. Dicklyon (talk) 22:34, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2025 (UTC) [7].[reply]
- Nominator(s): Chchcheckit (talk) 09:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because... FA list. Aiming to (eventually) form a Kittie studio albums Good Topic (7 albums; need to finish 2 of them). Yeah. Expanded enough to cover all stuff now??? // Chchcheckit (talk) 09:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- ngl: not sure if including sales table is useful given how incomplete it is. Chchcheckit (talk) 09:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I have done some fixes below but have not been able to find any good sources supporting the live music videos unfortunately. sucks. // Chchcheckit (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- There seems to be some inconsistency in whether the band should be treated as singular or plural e.g. you have "In 1998, Kittie recorded its first demo" but shortly afterwards you have "The band released their debut album". I have to confess I can't fully get my head around North American usage in this regard (I am British and we always treat a band as plural no matter how the sentence is worded e.g. we say "Coldplay are releasing an album" not "Coldplay is releasing an album"), so maybe the above is valid..........?
- "charted within the top forty of Billboard Active Rock Tracks chart" - this should be either "charted within the top forty of Billboard's Active Rock Tracks chart" or "charted within the top forty of the Billboard Active Rock Tracks chart". Both are valid but the current wording is not.
- "The band's second album Oracle (2001) earned the band" - any way to avoid "The band...the band"....?
- "was their lowest-charting album in the United States, debuted at number 178 on the Billboard 200" => "was their lowest-charting album in the United States, debuting at number 178 on the Billboard 200"
- "The band recorded its fifth album, In the Black, in 2008" - the table says 2009
- Why does only one video album have a ref against the title
- Some music videos are unsourced -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude Done? Chchcheckit (talk) 15:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @ChrisTheDude for follow-up. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:36, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude Done? Chchcheckit (talk) 15:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Still seeing some singular/plural disagreement e.g. you have "the band have sold" and "The band has achieved" in consecutive sentences. Is this flip-flopping legitimate in Canadian English....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:47, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- No. It's just me lmao. I'll correct that // Chchcheckit (talk) 18:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Image review
- File:Kittie at the Opera House 2010.jpg - Creative Commons-Share Alike 3.0 and GNU Documentation License
- The image and captions are relevant to the article, however, the image needs have alt text
That's my comments ROY is WAR Talk! 03:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- What would i put in the "alt text" besides the caption? Idk // Chchcheckit (talk) 20:30, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Chchcheckit, you should use visual editor to easy to edit the alt text.
- (e.g:File:Taylor Swift at the 2023 MTV Video Music Awards (3).png, the alt text is: "Swift glancing towards her left"). ROY is WAR Talk! 08:38, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- and it was necessarily to add alt text on all images per WP:ALT ROY is WAR Talk! 08:41, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Royiswariii Done? Chchcheckit (talk) 15:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. ROY is WAR Talk! 00:14, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Royiswariii Done? Chchcheckit (talk) 15:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- and it was necessarily to add alt text on all images per WP:ALT ROY is WAR Talk! 08:41, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cowboygilbert
Its only single, "Into the Darkness", reached number 116 on the UK Singles Chart.
is unsourced.Its second single, "We Are Shadows", became the band's highest-charting song on the Billboard Mainstream Rock Airplay chart, peaking at number 20.
is unsourced.Morgan and Mercedes are the only members to appear on all of Kittie's albums; their current lineup features guitarist Tara McLeod, who joined in 2005, and bassist Ivy Vujic(→), who played with the band from 2007 to 2012 before rejoining in 2022.
, sources where the members joined could be useful as well. as well as the claim that Morgan and Mercedes are the only members to appear.The band's sixth album, I've Failed You (2011), was their lowest-charting album in the United States, debuting at number 178 on the Billboard 200.
is unsourced.- Under Kittie discography#Music videos,
"Pain" (Live video)
and"Run Like Hell" (Live video)
are unsourced. - "18 music videos* → "19 music videos" in lead and in infobox.
- All from me for now, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 18:35, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging Chchcheckit, as there's several people who have provided feedback that you've not responded to. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert Done/adjusted? Chchcheckit (talk) 15:02, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Chchcheckit: as of the latest revision
- refs 32 and 48 are duplicates. same with 47 and 70.
- totally optional but i feel like the references should be next to whatever its being verified for. for example, reference 7 is at the end of the sentence but it should be next to it's corresponding information which is
The album debuted at number 101 on the Billboard 200
. There's a few spots where it's at the end of the sentence but should be next to the text that it's supposed to verify. Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 04:31, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert Thanks for calling that out. Done? again. // Chchcheckit (talk) 04:44, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Chchcheckit: Citation needed for
In 1998, Kittie recorded their first demo, Sexizhell.
After that's fixed than it's good from me. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 04:55, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]- Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert ping Chchcheckit (talk) 15:32, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- ty, Support. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 04:40, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Chchcheckit: Citation needed for
- @Chchcheckit: as of the latest revision
Source review from TheDoctorWho
The comments below are based on this revision:
- There are no sources for music videos for "Pain" or "Run Like Hell"
- Ref 5: Adding loudersound in parenthesis feels a little off here. What about appending
instead, similar to what was done in ref 8/25?
- Ref 7/35: Can I ask what the reliability of [8] is?
- Ref 12: "Blabbermouth" should be removed as the author; this is the name of the website, not a listed author.
- Ref 13: Same as 12.
- Ref 15: Same as 12.
- Ref 16: Link Billboard for consistency
- Ref 18: Can I ask about the use of about.com here? WP:RSP has it listed as no consensus for possible SPS and Circular violations.
- Refs 19-21: Same as 12.
- Ref 24: Same as 12.
- Ref 29: Remove "BraveWords" as an author (similar to 12.
- Ref 30: Same as 12.
- Ref 34: Needs
language=de
appended. - Ref 42: Remove "Anon" as the author (similar to 12).
- Ref 44: Remove "MNE" as an author.
- Ref 45: Same as 12.
- Ref 52: Same as 29.
- Ref 53: Same as 12.
- Ref 56: Same as 12.
- Refs 58-60: Same as 42.
- Ref 62: Same as 42.
- Ref 66: Same as 29.
- Ref 67: Same as 29.
- Refs 71-72: Same as 12.
- Ref 74: Remove "Revolver staff" as an author (similar to 12).
- Ref 75: Same as 12.
- Ref 80: Same as 12.
- Refs 85-88: Same as 12.
- Ref 91: Same as 12
- All of the "via=loudersound" should be "via=Louder Sound instead.
- Some references to Billboard contain publishes while others don't. This should be consistent in one format or the other; however, if you're adding publishers to the other ones, make sure the right one is listed as it has changed hands a few times.
- The above is also present in AllMusic (refs 22/55).
- References switch between using title case and sentence case, this should be consistent.
- There's also a number of incorrectly formatted dates in the source editor.
- There should be some user scripts that can assist in the most recent above, let me know if you need help finding a link to those.
- Spot-checked references 5, 11, 19, 20, 22, 31, 40, 46, 50, 56, 67, 73, 78, 87, 91; I have a few concerns listed below:
- Ref 40 is a dead link
- Ref 46 doesn't confirm CD/Digital Download
- Ref 50, same as above
- 56: doesn't confirm Rock Ridge or download
- 87: doesn't confirm Brodsky as director
Ping me when done. TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:29, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheDoctorWho I have done everything but References concerning formats. If this is a necessary issues should I remove any/all mentions to formats? Your call but I have addressed the rest. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I ran some general ref cleanup scripts. I believe this takes care of the formats you mentioned above. Source review passes. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:52, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- There are two unsourced music videos.
- None of the directors in the music video section have inline citations except for Brett Novak. If the sources after the video name are meant to cover those then they should be put in a separate references column.
- The last sentence in the lede is unsourced.
- "though Sumerian Records." -> "through Sumerian Records."
- "The band's sixth album, I've Failed You (2011), was their lowest-charting album in the United States, debuting at number 178 on the Billboard 200." seems unsourced.
- "Morgan and Mercedes are the only members to appear on all of Kittie's albums; their current lineup features guitarist Tara McLeod, who joined in 2005, and bassist Ivy Vujic, who played with the band from 2007 to 2012 before rejoining in 2022." seems unsourced.
- In the Black is claimed to have been released in both 2008 (lede) and 2009 (table).
- That's what I have for now. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:40, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042 Done? // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @History6042 for follow-up. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:32, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @History6042 for follow-up. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042 Done? // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FLC delegate reply
Please let me us know if you do not intend to respond to the feedback provided Chchcheckit. There's feedback from four individuals that has not been addressed, two of which are very recent, so I'm not particularly concerned about that, but some of the feedback is over a month old now. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:18, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh I have addressed part of this and will addres more. However, I can't find any good sources for the live "Pain" and "Run Like Hell" videos so i feel like it's already failed. // Chchcheckit (talk) 13:58, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You're welcome to continue working at it. I just wanted to know that you were still interested in this nomination @Chchcheckit. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I think i just gave up too early. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay. Thus far (summarizing all commenters comments), i have done everything but:
- music videos (specifically: "Pain" + "Run Like Hell")
- MV directors and inline references
- TheDoctorWho: music videos and directors
- If i missed anything please say
- // Chchcheckit (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh also idk yet about zobbel. i have seen it in many places Chchcheckit (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay. Thus far (summarizing all commenters comments), i have done everything but:
- I think i just gave up too early. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh hi! everything but the music videos is done. would me citing an interview mentioning the videos be enough to support the citations? that's kinda the only issue i think is left Chchcheckit (talk) 17:46, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Chchcheckit: Hey, this nomination has no supports after almost 2 months and is in danger of being closed. If you believe you have addressed all of any of the reviewers' comments, can you ping them back to this nomination? Alternately, if you haven't addressed a concern, please do so. --PresN 13:30, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi, I'm signing off the above requests as I have found sources covering the two missing video sources. Thank god. The rest will follow I think but please hold on a little longer. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:15, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah I have now gotten 2 editors to support, still waiting on other 3 // Chchcheckit (talk) 16:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- 3/5 to go // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- 4/5 // Chchcheckit (talk) 18:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- 3/5 to go // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Chchcheckit: Hey, this nomination has no supports after almost 2 months and is in danger of being closed. If you believe you have addressed all of any of the reviewers' comments, can you ping them back to this nomination? Alternately, if you haven't addressed a concern, please do so. --PresN 13:30, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You're welcome to continue working at it. I just wanted to know that you were still interested in this nomination @Chchcheckit. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2025 (UTC) [9].[reply]
- Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 00:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is Olympic medal table #10 for me (Summer Games nom #7). It was a relatively boring / run of the mill games, with nothing much of note happening when considering the countries/teams themselves. As always, I will do my best to respond to all comments as quickly as possible, and I appreciate any and all feedback that is given. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OlifanofmrTennant
- For once the correct date formatting is used[Joke], on a serious note data formatting is mostly consistant with a few stray DMY's and slash dates
- Spot checks don't find anything
- Linking is constant
- Note that the lead image is from 1929
- Images are from commons
- Alt text is present
- That's what I found source wise ping me when done. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Thank you very much for the review, but I'm not actually seeing any issues in the displayed references. Technically speaking, we don't need to make sure the dates used in references adhere to the format so long as the relevant {{Use mdy dates}} templates is used, which formats the dates properly for the references. With that said, I ran it against anyways, because I actually do prefer that the dates in the references match what the output is showing.
- Just for clarity though, since you mention spot checks, is this considered a source review as well? Hey man im josh (talk) 12:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes support Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @OlifanofmrTennant: For full transparency, I wanted to note that I've added a few more references, specifically to note that there were not medals awarded in some events and to note a few events not classified as sports (last two sentences of lead and the paragraph above the medal table). Hey man im josh (talk) 19:58, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes support Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "American swimmer Helene Madison won three golds medals" - there's a stray "s" in there
- That's all I could find! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed, thanks for the catch @ChrisTheDude! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:46, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:07, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Review by SafariScribe
I will do the source review.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:47, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There was already one done. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You're welcome of course to do your own source review, or this could use another general review of some kind @SafariScribe. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk!•
Comments from Arconning
- Maybe mention the amount of podium sweeps a country had at these games. The United States had multiple so it could be worth a mention, though it's no biggie if not.
- An image of Jānis Daliņš (the first Olympic medalist for Latvia's team) could be used to further illustrate the article.
- Definitely mention events that were held though no medals were awarded. One of the equestrian events were nullified thus resulting in no medals being awarded (could add an explanation to that), and another one resulted in no bronze medal being awarded as only two teams completed the source. This could probably be inserted within the "Medal table" section of the article.
- Sailing also had one event that did not have a bronze medal awarded, should be mentioned.
- @Hey man im josh: Here are my comments, probably all I can find. Arconning (talk) 13:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey @Arconning, I believe I've addressed all of your concerns, except for adding the podium sweeps. I don't see an ideal place to shoehorn that information in and I think it would end up clunky in this case. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per comments! Arconning (talk) 08:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 15 March 2025 (UTC) [10].[reply]
- Nominator(s): Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wole Soyinka has written many works and i feel this list meets FL. Cheers!. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Image caption should not have a full stop
- "The works of Wole Soyinka" => "The works of the Nigerian author Wole Soyinka"
- "He also had an active directing, acting, and speaking career." - he's not dead so has he given up on all of these? If not then it should be "He has also had an active directing, acting, and speaking career."
- "where he worked as a playreader"- what's a "playreader"? I've never heard this term before. Is there an appropriate link?
- "Soyinka's plays are distinct in style and narration, from African and London theatres." => "Soyinka's plays are distinct, in style and narration, from African and London theatres."
- "including Of Power and Freedom(2022)" - there needs to be a space before the (
- "Soyinka wrote [....] a collected essay about him, The Soyinka Impulse: Essays on Wole Soyinka." - he wrote an essay about himself.....?
- "Madmen and Specialists was the first play by Soyinka after he was released from prison" - this is a sudden revelation. You should add context by saying when this was, and why he was in prison.
- "He is a prolific writer of poetry, who wrote three poetry collections" => "He is a prolific writer of poetry, having written three poetry collections"
- "the items in this list are from Gibbs" - what does this mean? Who or what is/was Gibbs?
- The two cover image captions should not have full stops"
- "0xford University Press" - that first character is a zero
- Why are two of the plays indented?
- "Other stage plays, revues, Radio and TV plays" - no reason for capital R on radio
- "Unpublished plays bears" => "Unpublished plays are marked with"
- "My Father's Burden (6 August 1960). Western Nigerian T.V.; Resumed in March 1960" - huh? It began in August but then resumed in March of the same year?
- That's what I got on a first pass -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude, thanks for the review. I have fixed above. For play reader, see its meaning in the dictionary, however, if you have a better name, it is fine. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:07, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:46, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll look at it again before too long, there's no need to chase me up..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:01, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:46, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
More comments
- "he was acquitted in next year" => "he was acquitted the following year"
- "It resulted in his arrest, where he was accused of taking sides" => "It resulted in his arrest, after he was accused of taking sides"
- "Soyinka's successful acting and speaking career included roles" => "Soyinka's successful acting and speaking career has included roles"
- "Unpublished plays are marked with cross sign" => "Unpublished plays are marked with a cross sign"
- "The Tortise" - is that really how the title is spelt? It's not the correct spelling of tortoise....
- "Unpublished stories bear cross sign" => "Unpublished stories are marked with a cross sign" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:20, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you @ChrisTheDude. I have fixed the article per your reviews above. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I will look again later. Please don't chase me up after a day or less, I will get to it in due course -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I am sorry, do you mean "no pinging"? If yes, I abide. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I will look again later. Please don't chase me up after a day or less, I will get to it in due course -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:19, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Review
- What is a playreader? That should be linked or a more common term should be used.
- The part where the fact that he went to prison seems quite abrupt and is not given any explanation. Please add something about his time in prison.
- A harv error script I have installed is saying "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFJeyifo2005."
- Chronicles from the Land of the Happiest People on Earth says it was published in 2020 but it seems to have been published in 2021 according to Flood 2020 and the Wikipedia article about the novel.
- Culture in Transition has no source or publication date.
- "Kongi's Harvest (1973)." doesn't need a period.
- "Blues for a Prodigal (1963)." doesn't need a period.
- Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042, thank you for your comments, I have solved above. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:12, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:46, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- It has been one day, no need to re-ping, the review is done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:09, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:06, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Please, stop pinging, the review is done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 11:17, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:06, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- It has been one day, no need to re-ping, the review is done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:09, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:46, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reading Beans
I am reviewing this version
- Source review
- Passed.
- Reliable enough for the information being cited — pass
- Consistent date formatting — pass
- Consistent and proper reference formatting — pass
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable — pass
- Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for — pass
I’ll get this done before 24-hours. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 11:28, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The introduction cited to Kan 2024 in the lede is not verified. It could be that you summarised the article, if so, revise the article. There’s also no mention of a “teleplay” in the source. (See WP:SYNTH)
- “He is best known for his plays, especially the early plays that were performed in the Royal Court Theatre, where he worked as a play reader” is not verified.
- I was unable to verify “Soyinka's plays are distinct, in style and narration, from African and London theatres.” in Weales 1974 p3
- “In 1965 Soyinka was arrested for taking over a radio station at gunpoint and broadcasting a message which denounced electoral fraud in Western Nigeria. His detention drew international protests, and he was acquitted the following year. After Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu declared the independence of Biafra in 1966, Soyinka attempted to negotiate between the Nigerian government and the Biafra separatists. It resulted in his arrest, after he was accused of taking sides. In 1969 when the Nigerian Civil War ended, Soyinka was released under amnesty.” — I was unable to verify this in Weales 1974 p12.
- Ref 3 — passed.
- Ref 4 — passed. I also want to note that the chunk of text above that I labelled as unsourced are found in Ref4.
- "Soyinka has received many accolades including the 1986 Nobel Prize in Literature, an extended list of honors and awards, and more than 50 honorary degrees. He is a prolific writer of poetry, having written three poetry collections. Soyinka's successful acting and speaking career has included roles in numerous plays, films, television programs, and public talks." is unsourced.
- Ref 5 — passed.
- All other spot checks passed.
- Ref 13 should be changed to “Sert 2023"
- Ref 15 should be changed to "Waqqas 2023" for consistency.
Ping me on reply and let me know if you have any confusions. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:39, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Reading Beans, I have fixed the article per above review. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:17, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good! Support. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 08:22, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
IntentionallyDense
- Gugler, Josef the publisher field should just be Taylor & Francis, Ltd as per JSTOR
- the works/journals/websites/publishers are inconsistently linked. I'd add wikilinks for the remaining unlinked journals/publishers
- Capitalization across titles in sources should be consistent and not just what the source uses
- "He wrote autobiographies Aké : the Years of Childhood and You Must Set Forth at Dawn." This sentence could use just one more word to really pull it all together. Maybe something like "He wrote two autobiographies, XYZ"
- "Soyinka's works often depicts Greek and Yoruba mythology, Christian ideology,[2] Yoruba language, myth, and ritual in most of his works." Often and "in most of his works" seem redundant here. Unless I am missing something, they both seem to be conveying the same thing
- Add wikilink for Royal Court Theatre unless it's a different place then what the wikilink is for.
- "His poem "Telephone Conversation"" do poem names not get italics? I am unfamiliar
- Wikilink amnesty
That's all I have for now. Ping when done or if you have any questions. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 17:05, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @IntentionallyDense, I have done above. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:34, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this nom, best of luck! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 02:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by ChrisTheDude via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 15 March 2025 (UTC) [11].[reply]
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With the 1985 list just promoted and the 1986 list in a good place, here's the 1987 list. Fact: I chose the artist to feature in the lead image out of a number of possibilities as a little nod to my wife, who is the biggest fan of Moonlighting you could find -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
Source review: Passed
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent and proper reference formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for
Feedback:
- Ref 4 – Note as subscription access
- Ref 8 – Note as subscription access
That's all I've got. Please ping me when the above has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:48, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: - done! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:20, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NØ
Examining this list in accordance with the FL criteria:
- Prose: All of the list text is written in a professional quality of English, is easy to understand, and has a nice flow.
- Lead: The lead is comprehensive and gives a good overview of the table underneath, drawing readers to check out the rest of the list.
- Comprehensiveness: The list is comprehensive for the scope defined by the title, provides any of the information readers would be curious about and should have, has inline sources for all of the text, and it includes more than eight items. It meets the standard like the other lists in this series do.
- Structure: The list has a straightforward structure, which is easy to navigate.
- Style: The list has quality images which enhance the appeal of the surrounding text and include alt texts for greater accessibility.
- Overall, this list claims a support from me. Really great work here!--NØ 09:22, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dylan620
I did a quick image review and nothing seems out of order:
- All images utilize suitable alt text
- All images are appropriately licensed for either public domain or Creative Commons
- Sourcing for each image checks out (a couple have dead links, but I ran them through the Wayback Machine and it verified the respective images; good faith assumed where uploader claims own work)
- Each image contributes encyclopedic value to the list
Support based on this, though I do have an additional comment: I think it would be worth noting that, according to page Y-31 of "1987: The Year in Music & Video", published by Billboard on December 26, 1987, "Can't We Try" by Dan Hill and Vonda Shepard was the year-end Adult Contemporary number one of 1987. (Curiously, not only did that song peak at number two, but the entire year-end top three was occupied by songs that missed the top spot; the other two were "Somewhere Out There" [#4 weekly, #2 year-end] and "Will You Still Love Me?" [#2 weekly, #3 year-end].) Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 21:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dylan620: - so added -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Tone 21:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mongolia has 6 World Heritage Sites and 11 sites on its tentative list. Standard style. The nomination for Japan is already seeing some support so I am adding a new one. Tone 21:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
- All citations are appropriately formatted in a consistent manner.
- All citations are also from UNESCO; would appreciate some source diversity here, especially some third-party coverage. The list could benefit from using these in the lead to provide context for the listed and tentative sites, as well as Mongolia's own thoughts on the honors (if possible).
Would like to see more sources to help round out this list. SounderBruce 04:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The issue I am having with non-UNESCO sources is that they are typically directly derived, thus not providing any added value, or are tourist sites or blogs which again are not particular helpful. I quick-checked national ministry of culture, that would be a good source, but I didn't find anything. I am, of course, open to suggestions. Tone 08:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Tone, you may find additional sourcing in Christopher Atwood's Encyclopedia of Mongolia and the Mongol Empire (2004), which you can find here. It provides detail on all the World Heritage sites (albeit some under different names) and some of the tentative list. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- On a second thought, yes, more information about sites would be helpful for the articles about the sites themselves, but this is about the significance and why they were listed/nominated, and here the key source is the UNESCO one (or ICOMOS, sometimes). Everything else is derivative. Sometimes I use other sources if the UNESCO ones from older dates turn out to be outdated (such as Old Cairo being well-preserved as it stated in the original text which is not the case, or new measurements updating the heights of mountains, which sometimes happens, or a species going extinct, which was the case for some national parks). Tone 09:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Tone, you may find additional sourcing in Christopher Atwood's Encyclopedia of Mongolia and the Mongol Empire (2004), which you can find here. It provides detail on all the World Heritage sites (albeit some under different names) and some of the tentative list. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Image review
- File:Mongolia location map 2.svg - Public Domain
- File:Uvs-Nuur Hollow, Mongolia, Russia, Landsat-7 CROP.jpg - Public Domain, probably use a more exact source link
- File:Orchon-mongolei.JPG - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Petroglyphic Complexes of the Altai, Mongolia.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Burkhan Khaldun mount3.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:White-naped crane arp.jpg - Public Domain
- File:Deer stones.jpg - Free Art License
- File:Wild camel Mongolia.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:'Fighting dinosaurs'Tugrugeen Shireh, Gobi Desert, 1971.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0, would there be any source to this?
- File:The book of antelopes (1894) Gazella gutturosa.png - Public Domain
- File:Amarbayasgalant monastery temple 01.JPG - Public Domain
- File:Mongolia 104.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Khavtsgait Petroglyphs 11.jpg - CC0
- File:Tavan Bogd Mountain.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Otgon tenger uul 2009.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- All images are relevant to the article and have alt text.
- Here are my comments. Arconning (talk) 12:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Should I do anything here? The comments are referring more to the Commons files than to the article. Let me know :) Tone 09:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cowboygilbert
- Legend needs to be properly identified with a section header or a table
- Tentative list section says "Mongolia has 12 properties on its tentative list." but the section has 11.
- Alt for Petroglyphic Complexes in the Mongolian Gobi should be changed to reflect what is shown in the image.
- All that I have for now, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 02:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @Tone for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, seems I missed those. I'll go through soon. Tone 17:58, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done! Not sure what you mean by legend properly identified, everything non-obvious has a link. And the style is consistent through al FLs on WHS. Tone 10:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @Cowboygilbert for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done! Not sure what you mean by legend properly identified, everything non-obvious has a link. And the style is consistent through al FLs on WHS. Tone 10:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, seems I missed those. I'll go through soon. Tone 17:58, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @Tone for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tone:
- The legend should be marked so that someone with a screenreader will know its a legend, like in List of songs recorded by SZA.
- Tables need captions to adhere by MOS:DTAB.
- The blue cell colors currently fails the WebAIM Color Contrast checker for WCAG 2.0 AA and WCAG 2.0 AAA on the Vector 2022 skin link color, , but only fails the WCAG 2.0 AAA for the other skins link color, . My suggestion is to change the color to adhere by MOS:COLOR.
- @Tone: forgot to sign lol Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 19:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Added legend to the screenreader part. The table style looks consistent to me, I am using row and col and all that, so please help me out here. And also for the blue cell - what do you suggest I use here instead? The current style has worked for over a decade. And while we're on that, could you also check the background for the sites in danger, such as here? I want to keep them consistent over all articles. Thanks! Tone 09:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tone: I do not see things unless I get pinged for it.
- This color: #e6f5ff is a light enough blue and passes the contrast checker. The yellow color is fine as well in the other article.
- You can learn how to add captions to tables at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Data tables tutorial#Proper table captions and summaries. All FLs should follow the manual of style, especially if one has a table.
- Thank you. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:24, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert: Alright, I see. Well, in this case, I'll have to challenge the MOS. For screen reader purposes, the legend is included in the code, adding the caption again after the title that literally says the same thing (World Heritage Sites) is totally redundant. As for the colour, this white is so bright that it is hardly visible. The blue in the box at the beginning of conversation, the dark one, is not what is used in the table. So I wonder if we are using the same settings? I think I am using the default ones. Tone 16:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tone: The dark blues, if you can read it properly, says that they are the text colors of the different skins. Not that you are using it. The captions aren't redundant because they aren't meant to just say what the heading says. They can say something like "List of world heritage sites with location, year, UNESCO data, and other details". It is meant to reflect what it is in the table. Thank you. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:49, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert: I think I get it now, I was looking at the contrast with black text, not the blue (or purple, which I obviously have in my browser since I changed the links). As for the caption, I've had all along sronly|World Heritage Sites with the name of the site, image, location, year it was listed, UNESCO reference number and criteria, and description in the code and that should do, the names are descriptive enough. If this is for screen reader purpose, that should do. For other purposes, it is clearly redundant and represents extra cluttering. Tone 17:13, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tone: The dark blues, if you can read it properly, says that they are the text colors of the different skins. Not that you are using it. The captions aren't redundant because they aren't meant to just say what the heading says. They can say something like "List of world heritage sites with location, year, UNESCO data, and other details". It is meant to reflect what it is in the table. Thank you. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:49, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert: Alright, I see. Well, in this case, I'll have to challenge the MOS. For screen reader purposes, the legend is included in the code, adding the caption again after the title that literally says the same thing (World Heritage Sites) is totally redundant. As for the colour, this white is so bright that it is hardly visible. The blue in the box at the beginning of conversation, the dark one, is not what is used in the table. So I wonder if we are using the same settings? I think I am using the default ones. Tone 16:41, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tone: I do not see things unless I get pinged for it.
- @Tone:
History6042
- The section for the tentative list says there are 12 on the list but there are only 11 shown.
- There seems to be a lot of usage of primary sources from UNESCO, there should probably be more secondary sources.
- The alt text for Petroglyphic Complexes in the Mongolian Gobi should be more descriptive.
- The key/legend should be converted to a table.
- "by different nomad communities" -> "by different nomadic communities", nomad is a noun, nomadic is the adjective.
- "Siilkhem mountain National Park" -> "Siilkhem Mountain National Park"
- "Different cultures left mark on the area." -> "Different cultures left their marks on the area."
- "a stone masonry wall in the length of 3 kilometres (1.9 mi)" -> "a stone masonry wall with a length of 3 kilometres (1.9 mi)"
- Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, thanks! Comments regarding primary sources and table legend above, the rest I fixed. Tone 10:48, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @History6042 for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:56, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging @History6042 for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, thanks! Comments regarding primary sources and table legend above, the rest I fixed. Tone 10:48, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dicklyon
We have discussion elsewhere about consistent citation style, particularly capitalization. Presently, the citations appear to be literally consistent with the respective sources (at UNESCO, mostly), but not consistent across them, since UNESCO is so inconsistent itself. And particularly not consistent with MOS:TITLE's title-caps style (we would say "and Its" where UNESCO has "and its") and since some other part of the UNESCO titles are randomly lowercase (similarly in the featured List of World Heritage Sites in Japan, e.g. here; also "Northern part" at UNESCO was preserved in the citation but rendered as "northern part" in the article title and table, so it's not like we're not allowed to change capitalization).
Further, it saddens me that the one thing UNESCO is pretty consistent about, "World Heritage sites", we choose to over-capitalize.
None of this is to say it's not a great list. This is probably not a good venue for me to complain. Dicklyon (talk) 09:55, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yup, I am aware that UNESCO sources are inconsistent, I am trying to do my best to find some good ground between the sources and the style we use in WP articles about the sites. Lots of spelling differences as well. Typically I keep the official name as per source and if needed use the WP style in the description. Tone 15:35, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "and several archaeological site." => "and several archaeological sites."
- "In the last two millennia, the valley was inhabited" => "In the last two millennia, the valley has been inhabited"
- "and depict the animals such as mammoths" => "and depict animals such as mammoths"
- "The harsh landscape with vast range of intact desert features" => "The harsh landscape with a vast range of intact desert features"
- "The findings had immense importance on the development of paleontology" => "The findings had immense importance in the development of paleontology"
- "Among the important fins" => "Among the important finds"
- "dating to 3rd to 7th centuries" => "dating to the 3rd to 7th centuries"
- "Due to sacred nature" => "Due to their sacred nature" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed all, thanks! Tone 13:13, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Although one editor has an issue with the way the captions are used, the purpose of captions is to allow screen reader software, when it jumps straight to a table without the surrounding context, to give out a description of what the table is. They're not meant to be an exhaustive description, and if there's a nearby header that serves the same purpose, they don't need to be visible (as sighted readers get that context). The example at DTAB explicitly calls this out, in that text above can be the context. If anything, Tone's captions are too detailed, though that's a minor issue that isn't worth holding up a promotion for. Promoting. --PresN 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Vestrian24Bio 11:54, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am planning on taking this to be part of a Featured topic or a Good topic at least and here's the first FLC in the topic... Vestrian24Bio 11:54, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Year
becomes!scope=col | Year
. This needs to be done for every column header cell and not just the first one. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| Afghanistan
becomes!scope=row | Afghanistan
(on its own line). - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. The above need to be done for every table.
- There are 2 "Cite errors" in the notes section.
Only a few of the refs have archive links.- The lead has 4 somewhat short paragraphs. You should reorder it to have 2 meatier paragraphs instead. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:11, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Will add the row scopes, all else done. Vestrian24Bio 16:16, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824 done now. Vestrian24Bio 12:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The key table in the "Associate members" section also needs col scopes for the header. Alternatively, you can replace it (somehow) with the {{Legend}} template.
- Support on table accessibility, in advance since I trust that you'll get this done. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:51, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, and I've replaced the key table with the {{Legend}} templates as well. Vestrian24Bio 13:41, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824 done now. Vestrian24Bio 12:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Will add the row scopes, all else done. Vestrian24Bio 16:16, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Mention that teams can be expelled.
- I would merge the two paragraphs in Former Members
- I would add a paragraph in front members details what it takes to be removed.
- Any more specifics regaurd removals? What specific guidelines were violated?
- Associate members with ODI status uses external links instead of a properly formatted citation
- Ping me when done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I did try adding a bit more about the membership guidelines a few days ago, but was removed for COPYVIOS, will try adding a summarized version.
- Associate members with ODI status sources are dynamic refs, and there formatted as such across cricket articles (e.g: ICC Men's Test Team Rankings, ICC Women's ODI and T20I Team Rankings, ICC Men's Player Rankings etc.).
All else done. Vestrian24Bio 16:16, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @OlifanofmrTennant: all done. Vestrian24Bio 13:30, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
More comments
- A key/legend is needed for List of International Cricket Council members#Associate members with ODI status for the red X and the emdash in the table.
- Make sure you use the
!scope=row
like what MPGuy2824 said but make sure you use it in the correct row, do it in the country row and not the number row because the scope of the row for that table is on the countries. - The very light gray color you used for "Teams" under the first table is almost non-existent to people who are visually imparied and failed the WebAIM contrast checker. The text and color should be removed as it serves virtually no purpose.
- Under List of International Cricket Council members#Regional bodies, there is no explanation on what "Full" and "Associate" means and it should have an explanation of what they are.
- Issues with MOS:OVERLINK should be dealt with.
- Thats it for now. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 22:52, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- the red X and the emdash are explained in adjacent notes, is a separate key/legend necessary there?
- Linked "Full" and "Associate" in the regional bodies table header.
- Could you detail what you mean by MOS:OVERLINK...
All else done. Vestrian24Bio 16:16, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In my opinion, yes. The way you are doing it now is to explain why the special colors and symbols are there and not what they mean. You don't have to get elaborate in the key/legend but just say like "Teams that does not have an ODI status" and "Teams that are not ranked on ODI rankings".
- I meant to link WP:DUPLICATELINK. This is only for the prose, not the tables. For an example: "World Cricket League" is mentioned three times and is linked twice, it should be linked once.
- Thanks,
Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:21, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- "competitions organised by ICC." -> "competitions organised by the ICC."
- "Twenty20 International" -> "Twenty20 Internationals"
- "of which of which 5 have men's ODI status"->"of which 5 have men's ODI status"
- Delete the space after "interference in the board."
- "Full Members are the governing bodies"->"Full members are the governing bodies"
- "Afghanistan women's team played their first match"->"theAfghanistan women's team played their first match"
- In the table there should be the new Afghan flag unless this was a decision made by the ICC to recognize the old flag.
- Everything in the table is linked to the nation but West Indies is linked to the federation, this should be consistent.
- "Associate Members are the governing bodies"->"Associate members are the governing bodies"
- "which does not qualify as a Full Member"->"which does not qualify as a full member"
- "a series of international one-day cricket"->"a series of international one-day cricket matches"
- "went to only the teams qualifier"->"went to only the teams qualified"
- "Netherlands ensured"->"The Netherlands ensured"
- "and United States"->"and the United States"
- "five Associate teams"->"five associate teams"
- "in the top four of 2023 Qualifier"->"in the top four of the 2023 Qualifier "
- Ping when done please. History6042😊 (Contact me) 11:56, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042:
- ICC still recognizes the old flag, even ACB's official website still uses the old flag.
- West Indies link is generated by the {{Flag}} template, which I don't know why links there but there must be a reason.
- All else done. Vestrian24Bio 13:22, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:25, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042:
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Chchcheckit (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because... might be speedrunning fr here. Ithaca are gonna disband in August 2025, making their discography complete/unchanging after that point. I feel I've got everything down here. Also: am working on both studio album articles for yet another good topic. Thanks. Chchcheckit (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "Ithaca recorded its debut album" => "Ithaca recorded their debut album" per UK English
- "for a compilation organized" => "for a compilation organised" per UK English
- "In 2025, Ithica plans" => "In 2025, Ithica plan" per UK English
- That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 18:53, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Royiswariii
Image review
- File:20231007 ithaca.jpg - Own work - Passed
- Have an alt text - Passed
- Rename the file on commons "File:Ithaca performing live.jpg to be more appropriate file name.
- Change the "Ref." to "Ref(s)."
If done, please ping me. ROY is WAR Talk! 13:35, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "Ithaca performing live" is the alt text. I should do better.
- Reference(s) multi set to yes
- // Chchcheckit (talk) 22:21, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Royiswariii I have suggested on commons the name be changed to "Ithaca Aftershock Festival 2023". I think I have done all you have said. // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:42, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. ROY is WAR Talk! 01:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Royiswariii I have suggested on commons the name be changed to "Ithaca Aftershock Festival 2023". I think I have done all you have said. // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:42, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Vestrian24Bio
- Refs 16 & 22 - duplicated citations.
- Aren't there news coverage for youtube sources.
- The page is missing article description, should at least have a
{{short description|none}}
template. - Specify a language variant.
Vestrian24Bio 13:32, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Vestrian24Bio:
- done
- For the music videos: there are (for 6/7 of them, excluding "otherworldly": appears on metalsucks albeit not really?), but most do not include a director/film credit. hence. plus they get their own coverage in the album articles?
- done?
- done
- // Chchcheckit (talk) 22:27, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- No need to specify
border="1"
in tables. - No need to boldface header texts as they're bolded by default.
- Studio albums caption should be, "List of studio albums, with selected chart positions".
- EPs table captions should be just "List of extended plays".
- Singles caption should be "List of singles, showing associated albums".
- MV caption should be "List of music videos, with directors, along with albums".
- "Hold Fast Hope" is linked to a redirect to Vheissu.
<references />
could be replaced with{{reflist}}
template and<references group="upper-alpha" responsive="1"></references>
could be replaced with{{notelist-ua}}
Vestrian24Bio 13:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Vestrian24Bio Done all. // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Vestrian24Bio 02:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review from TheDoctorWho
I see a few comments have been made above, but figure I'd give this a proper source review:
- Does "Anon" in ref 2 stand for "anonymous"? If so, this should be removed. If no author is listed it should just be blank.
- What makes The Midlands Rocks a reliable source? It's about page refers to it as a WP:BLOG and seems to imply that you can write for them just by filling out their contact form, suggesting poor editorial standards.
- Metal Injection is italicized in ref 14, but not ref 13, it should be consistent in either format
- Ref 18 actually has a listed author that needs added
- Ref 19: wikilink YouTube
- Similar to the above, Anon should be removed from 21
- The title in ref 27 isn't italicized while the rest of the YouTube titles are, again this should be consistent
- "OFFICIAL VIDEO" in this ref should be changed to "Official Video"
- I see that a number of references switch between sentence and title case. This should also be consistent. I'd like to suggest that you run this script to help with that.
- Spot checked references 1, 7, 12, 13, 14, 18, 22, and 28; mostly everything checks out except for the two concerns below.
- Regarding 12: is there a direct source to refer to it as "critically acclaimed"? If not it may be considered WP:PUFFERY.
- Regarding 18: the source seems to verify everything except that it was released on vinyl and digital download?
TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheDoctorWho:
- i usually put "anon" where there is no listed author. either way, gone
- midlands rocks removed; redundant either way
- done
- done
- done
- italiciazion issues was due to it being formatted as cite web (because internet archive) vs cite av media; fixed
- will run script
- removed; i found like one other source but i dont wanna risk puffery either
- echoes and dust (ref 4) notes it being band's first proper vinyl release. added to table
- anything else? // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- For context, adding "Anon" to a source implies that there's actually a listed author who's name is Anon. If there isn't a listed author it's better to just leave it blank. Regardless, that's it for me! Source review passes. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
Focusing strictly on reference formatting and a few spot checks:
- Consistent wikilinking in sources
- Dates added where available
- Consistent date formatting
- Authors added where available
- Links are live or appropriately archived
- Ref 8 – Remove "BrooklynVegan Staff", it's assumed the staff would be the ones writing it and we don't need to specify this if an author isn't listed
- Ref 15 – Unless I'm misunderstanding, it's not assumed that Ithaca is the actual publisher of the page, it's simply mentioning that the song was by them
- Ref 17 – Change the website to
[[Decibel (magazine)|Decibel]]
- Ref 22 doesn't verify the directors
- If you keep the director column with both of those people listed, the heading should be changed to "Director(s)
- Ref 23 – No mention of the album this is in relation to
That's what I've got. Please ping me when you reply. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:36, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh I think that's all? also does "filmed and edited" in ref 22 count. if not, shall remove Chchcheckit (talk) 17:44, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh Also when you state "Consistent date formatting" etc do you mean that I have done that? Chchcheckit (talk) 15:47, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:12, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The European Figure Skating Championships are unquestionably one of the most prestigious figure skating competitions in the world. Only the World Championships and the Olympics carry greater weight. As such, this is one of the flagship articles of the Figure Skating WikiProject and should be of the highest quality. Hyperion82 and I worked very hard a while back to improve this article and I believe the quality is evident. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, a well-sourced history is provided and I believe the sources are properly formatted, and relevant photographs are used to reflect both the present-day and historical contexts. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:12, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)
- The table accessibility is mostly fine, with one specific issue: column header cells are denoted with a '!' sign rather than a '|' sign, and your gold/silver/bronze column headers have wrong (and then are bolded to try to make it consistent). Change all of the e.g.
| scope="col" style="text-align:center; width:25%; background:gold" | '''Gold'''
to! scope="col" style="text-align:center; width:25%; background:gold" | Gold
. - The final Cumulative medal table is missing a caption; fill in the caption parameter or, if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting
{{sronly|caption_text}}
. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN 23:36, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done Pinging PresN. All of your changes have been implemented. Additionally, I adjusted the column headers at Ukrainian Figure Skating Championships, which is also up for FL review and should be wrapping up. Let me know if there is anything else I need to address. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:04, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope, looks good. --PresN 01:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TheDoctorWho
I can't say I know much about this topic, but the nominator reached out to me looking for additional reviews. My review will remain neutral however, as I have no personal stake or attachment to this list. This review also includes a few comments on references but is not meant to take the place of a full source review.
- I noticed that this list uses {{Infobox recurring event}} while the one for Ukraine uses {{Infobox Figure Skating Competition}} - I assume if you're aiming for a consistent look in these (as mentioned in the Ukrainian one) this should be consistent one way or the other.
Done I transformed the Ukrainian infobox to Recurring Event. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The logo in the Infobox lacks Alt text
- Figure skating can be wikilinked in the first sentence of the history section
- The penultimate sentence of the history section has unbalanced parenthesis
- Similar to my review on the Ukraine list, there are a few improperly formatted dates and sentence/title case issue in ref titles. I suggest running those same scripts here.
Nice work, not much to say! TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done Thank you for your suggestions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good, happy to support! TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:31, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OlifanofmrTennant
- Ice dancing is linked twice in the lead
- Pair skating is linked twice in the lead
- Ice dancing is linked twice in history
- All
Done Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- All
- Men's singles, pairs, and ice dancing need prose to match women's singels
- The women's event had the one scandal which I didn't feel relegating it to a footnote would be sufficient. None of the other events have had an aberration that needed explaining or clarification. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The ref in women's singles should be moved to the end of the paragraph.
- Ref 47 contains two MOS:DASH violations
Done Thank you for catching that. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That's what I got ping me when done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging Olifanofmrtennant... I hope you find these corrections to your satisfaction. Thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TheUzbek
- Support A good list, but I have a question. I understand that the "Records" "Cumulative medal table" tables are referenced from the refs above, but it took me a few seconds to grasp it. Why not have refs for these tables as well? --TheUzbek (talk) 10:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure what references I would cite. The data on that table is populated by the results of the four tables above (all four skating disciplines combined). It is the same table from European Figure Skating Championships cumulative medal count. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:32, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- TheUzbek, it turns out that same table at European Figure Skating Championships cumulative medal count did have a source attached, so I just carried it over here. I also added a better table caption, which should help make it less confusing. Thank you for your feedback! Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 March 2025 (UTC) [16].[reply]
- Nominator(s): ROY is WAR Talk! 01:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After the promoted FL of List of awards and nominations received by Bini, I will nominate this.
If I cannot respond as soon as possible, my colleague editor and significantly contributed on this discography, AstrooKai will respond to any suggestions and recommendations on this discography.
ROY is WAR Talk! 01:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- "the most streamed female OPM artist and most streamed P-pop group on the platform." -> "the most streamed female OPM artist and P-pop group on the platform." Having most streamed twice is redundant.
- "becoming the First P-pop group to top" -> "becoming the first P-pop group to top"
- "The Billboard Philippines Top Philippine Songs chart was first introduced in July 2024 as a replacement for the discontinued Philippines Songs chart by Billboard" is a sentence and needs a period.
- I think all the table headers showing "Ref." should be "Ref(s)."
- "will be released as vinyl records in December 2024 as part of their collaboration with Star Music." needs to be updated, December 2024 has passed, so change to the past tense please.
- I don't think certifications needs to be linked twice.
- "With over 100 million streams from their song "Pantropiko" and amassing over six million monthly listeners on Spotify" -> "With over 100 million streams from their song "Pantropiko" and over six million monthly listeners on Spotify"
- Ping when done please. History6042😊 (Contact me) 11:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello, History6042!
- ""the most streamed female OPM artist and most streamed P-pop group on the platform." -> "the most streamed female OPM artist and P-pop group on the platform." Having most streamed twice is redundant." Done. ROY is WAR Talk! 12:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- ""becoming the First P-pop group to top" -> "becoming the first P-pop group to top"" Done ROY is WAR Talk! 12:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "The Billboard Philippines Top Philippine Songs chart was first introduced in July 2024 as a replacement for the discontinued Philippines Songs chart by Billboard" is a sentence and needs a period." Done ROY is WAR Talk! 12:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "I think all the table headers showing "Ref." should be "Ref(s)."" Done ROY is WAR Talk! 12:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- ""will be released as vinyl records in December 2024 as part of their collaboration with Star Music." needs to be updated, December 2024 has passed, so change to the past tense please." Done ROY is WAR Talk! 12:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "I don't think certifications needs to be linked twice." Done ROY is WAR Talk! 12:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- ""With over 100 million streams from their song "Pantropiko" and amassing over six million monthly listeners on Spotify" -> "With over 100 million streams from their song "Pantropiko" and over six million monthly listeners on Spotify"" Done ROY is WAR Talk! 12:31, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Good job, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! ROY is WAR Talk! 13:26, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Good job, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello, History6042!
Vestrian24Bio
- Refs 24 & 40 - duplicated citations.
- Refs 52 & 53 - original source link.
- Only {{Bini}} navbox is enough here.
Vestrian24Bio 13:33, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello, Vestrian24Bio!
- Refs 24 & 40 - duplicated citations. Done.
- Refs 52 & 523 - original source link. Done.
- Only {{Bini}} navbox is enough here. Done.
ROY is WAR Talk! 14:45, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Could mention the number of soundtrack appearances in the lead sentence as well.
- No need to link countries per WP:GEOLINK.
- "comeback sophomore album" - what does 'comeback' supposed to mean...
'' [[Feel Good (Bini album)|Feel Good]].''
should be''[[Feel Good (Bini album)|Feel Good]]''.
- No need to link "Pantropiko" and extended play again in the thrid paragraph. Also just EP is enough as the full form is already given in the first paragraph.
- No need to add "rowspan", if it's for only one row.
- Could use the {{Ref.}} template in the table headers.
- Should add abbreviations to PHL and PARI on the first table.
- Could link certifications to List of music recording certifications directly.
- Studio albums caption should be "List of studio albums, with sales figures, and certifications", similarly for EPs table "List of extended plays, with sales figures, and certifications".
- Singles captions should be,
- "List of singles, showing selected chart positions, and associated albums"
- "List of promotional singles, showing associated albums"
- "List of other charted songs, showing selected chart positions, and associated albums"
- "List of collaboration singles, showing associated albums"
- In
"Karera" (Race)
,"Pantropiko" (Tropical)
,Talaarawan (Diary)
and"Salamin, Salamin" (Mirror, Mirror)
- what are the terms in parenthesis; assuming they're translations, are they necessary..? - Not necessary to link the albums and EPs in singles tables, because they're already linked above in the albums table and EPs table.
- 15 singles, 11 promotional singles - update the counts...
Vestrian24Bio 13:29, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello! I just checked in on this FLC to see its progress and saw your other concerns unaddressed by the nominator at the moment. So I'll take this one for now.
Could mention the number of soundtrack appearances in the lead sentence as well.
- Done. See revision 1276658104.
No need to link countries per WP:GEOLINK.
- Done. See revision 1276658550.
"comeback sophomore album" - what does 'comeback' supposed to mean...
- "Comeback" means its their new album release after long periods of time. Their last album, Born to Win, was released in 2021. The "comeback" is explicitly mentioned in the cited source that is supporting it[17], but let me know if it is better to remove the word or retain it.
'' [[Feel Good (Bini album)|Feel Good]].''
should be''[[Feel Good (Bini album)|Feel Good]]''.
- Done. See revision 1276659702.
No need to link "Pantropiko" and extended play again in the thrid paragraph. Also just EP is enough as the full form is already given in the first paragraph.
- Done. See revision 1276659901.
No need to add "rowspan", if it's for only one row.
- Done. See revision 1276660261.
Could use the {{Ref.}} template in the table headers.
- Done. See revision 1276660556.
Should add abbreviations to PHL and PARI on the first table.
- Done. See revision 1276661574.
Could link certifications to List of music recording certifications directly.
- Done. See revision 1276661957.
Studio albums caption should be "List of studio albums, with sales figures, and certifications", similarly for EPs table "List of extended plays, with sales figures, and certifications".
- Done. See revision 1276662124.
Singles captions should be,
"List of singles, showing selected chart positions, and associated albums"
"List of promotional singles, showing associated albums"
"List of other charted songs, showing selected chart positions, and associated albums"
"List of collaboration singles, showing associated albums"
- Done. See revision 1276662318.
In
"Karera" (Race)
,"Pantropiko" (Tropical)
,Talaarawan (Diary)
and"Salamin, Salamin" (Mirror, Mirror)
- what are the terms in parenthesis; assuming they're translations, are they necessary..?
- I'm not exactly sure if they are needed, as I saw other FL-rated discographies not having similar practices. You may ask Borgenland about this as they are the one who adds these translations to this discography and other Bini-related articles.
Not necessary to link the albums and EPs in singles tables, because they're already linked above in the albums table and EPs table.
- Done. See revision 1276662994.
15 singles, 11 promotional singles - update the counts...
- Done. See revision 1276663240.
- That is all. Let me or the nominator know if there are other issues you find needed addressing. Thanks! AstrooKai (Talk) 03:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- These are translations. I have been trying to reformat them to (lit. 'Tropical') for example but I haven't finished them yet given the number of other articles I handle. Borgenland (talk) 03:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Addendum: I am not sure about translation rules for such articles but I maintain the judgement that non-English speaking readers have a right to know what the words mean. Borgenland (talk) 15:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- All good, Support! Vestrian24Bio 11:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! AstrooKai (Talk) 11:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- All good, Support! Vestrian24Bio 11:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Addendum: I am not sure about translation rules for such articles but I maintain the judgement that non-English speaking readers have a right to know what the words mean. Borgenland (talk) 15:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- These are translations. I have been trying to reformat them to (lit. 'Tropical') for example but I haven't finished them yet given the number of other articles I handle. Borgenland (talk) 03:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from ThedoctorWho
- "
with six of their songs appeared as soundtracks
" - wording feels off here, perhaps something like "with six of their songs appearing on soundtracks"? - What is the "Star Hunt Academy program" - perhaps a brief explanation?
- iTunes Album Chart --> iTunes Album Chart
- Ref 13 needs
url-access=registration
appended - In the third paragraph it may be helpful to enclose the translations inside {{Literal translation}} to avoid any confusion
- "camp back in 2023" --> "camp in 2023"
- "were released as vinyl records" --> "would be released as vinyl records"
Not much else for me to say here, nice work! TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:45, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"
with six of their songs appeared as soundtracks
" - wording feels off here, perhaps something like "with six of their songs appearing on soundtracks"?
- Done.
What is the "Star Hunt Academy program" - perhaps a brief explanation?
- Done. Added it as a footnote.
iTunes Album Chart --> iTunes Album Chart
- Done.
Ref 13 needs
url-access=registration
appended
- Done. Did this to all Rappler references.
In the third paragraph it may be helpful to enclose the translations inside {{Literal translation}} to avoid any confusion
- Done.
"camp back in 2023" --> "camp in 2023"
- Done.
"were released as vinyl records" --> "would be released as vinyl records"
- Done.
- See revision 1276699099 for the changes. Let me or the nominator know if there is anything else you think should be addressed. Thanks! AstrooKai (Talk) 08:14, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks great! Happy to support. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! AstrooKai (Talk) 11:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks great! Happy to support. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "With over 100 million streams from their song "Pantropiko"" => "With over 100 million streams of their song "Pantropiko""
- " The album rose to the charts" - this doesn't make sense, do you mean " The album rose to the top of the charts"....?
- "The group co-wrote the single, "Love Yourself", with a fan" => "The group co-wrote the single, "Love Yourself" with a fan"
- "released their comeback sophomore album" - what is a "sophomore album"?
- "The songs became a hit in 2024" - multiple songs can't become "a hit" (singular)
- "on the social platform, TikTok" => "on the social platform TikTok"
- "They together performed a" => "They performed together a"
- "becoming the first P-pop group to top the magazine's chart" => "making them the first P-pop group to top the magazine's chart"
- "announced that Bini's albums Born to Win, Feel Good, and debut EP, Talaarawan, would be" => "announced that Bini's albums Born to Win and Feel Good and their debut EP, Talaarawan, would be"
- "released their single, "Blink Twice", and" => "released their single "Blink Twice" and"
- Why is "Our Stories Shine This Christmas" listed twice?
- Why are there two separate sets of notes, one with a lower-case a and then two with capital letters? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"With over 100 million streams from their song "Pantropiko"" => "With over 100 million streams of their song "Pantropiko""
- Done. See revision 1276756999.
" The album rose to the charts" - this doesn't make sense, do you mean " The album rose to the top of the charts"....?
- I just realized, shouldn't this sentence be removed per WP:SINGLEVENDOR? Since it talks about the album's performance on ITunes' chart.
"The group co-wrote the single, "Love Yourself", with a fan" => "The group co-wrote the single, "Love Yourself" with a fan"
- Done. See revision 1276757373.
"released their comeback sophomore album" - what is a "sophomore album"?
- "Sophomore" in the context of music means that it's the second album. But I removed this in line with MOS:SOPHOMORE, since the term is not widely understood outside the US. See revision 1276757890.
"The songs became a hit in 2024" - multiple songs can't become "a hit" (singular)
- Done. See revision NUM.
"on the social platform, TikTok" => "on the social platform TikTok"
- Done. See revision 1276758096.
"They together performed a" => "They performed together a"
- Done. See revision 1276758287.
"becoming the first P-pop group to top the magazine's chart" => "making them the first P-pop group to top the magazine's chart"
- Done. See revision 1276758480.
"announced that Bini's albums Born to Win, Feel Good, and debut EP, Talaarawan, would be" => "announced that Bini's albums Born to Win and Feel Good and their debut EP, Talaarawan, would be"
- Done. See revision 1276759062.
"released their single, "Blink Twice", and" => "released their single "Blink Twice" and"
- Done. See revision 1276759229.
Why is "Our Stories Shine This Christmas" listed twice?
- The first entry of this song, found in Bini discography § As lead artist, pertains to the version of the song where only the group sang it. That's why it's listed under the "As lead artist" table. The second entry of the song, found in Bini discography § Collaborations, pertains to the version of the song where the group sang it along with various artists of ABS-CBN. The song is the 2024 Christmas Station ID entry of the network. A Christmas Station ID is a Christmas jingle released by major entertainment networks in the Philippines. It has become an annual tradition, where these networks release these Christmas jingles, sang by their artists.
- OK, that makes sense BTW it looks like the second one is spelt wrong as it says "Our Stories Shines This Christmas" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Thanks for spotting it! AstrooKai (Talk) 02:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why are there two separate sets of notes, one with a lower-case a and then two with capital letters?
- Resolved. Switched to upper-alpha styling for all footnotes. See revision 1276760639.
- If there are other issues you find, please let me or the nominator know. Thanks! AstrooKai (Talk) 15:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I can still see "The album rose to the charts", which doesn't make sense, and the unnecessary comma in "on the social platform, TikTok". I would fix these but I don't know what the first one is meant to say -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:45, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm actually thinking twice on removing that entire sentence since it may fall under WP:SINGLEVENDOR. That sentence only demonstrates the fact that the album rose to iTunes chart. What do you think? AstrooKai (Talk) 20:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Makes sense -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm actually thinking twice on removing that entire sentence since it may fall under WP:SINGLEVENDOR. That sentence only demonstrates the fact that the album rose to iTunes chart. What do you think? AstrooKai (Talk) 20:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I can still see "The album rose to the charts", which doesn't make sense, and the unnecessary comma in "on the social platform, TikTok". I would fix these but I don't know what the first one is meant to say -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:45, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
This review is based on this version of the article.
- Ref 5 – Link to ABS-CBN Entertainment
- Ref 15 – Remove piping on ABS-CBN News, as it currently links to the ABS-CBN instead
- Ref 11 – Link to SunStar
- Ref 12 – No publisher or website listed
- Refs 12, 20, 47, 48, 49, 52 – Remove "on Apple Music" from the title
- Ref 17 – Add publish date
- Ref 20 – Unnecessarily marked as dead, needs to be marked as live
- Ref 29 – Add author
- Ref 33 – Change website to ABS-CBN News
- Ref 33 – Add publish date
- Ref 37 – Add author
- Ref 46 – Add author and publish date
- Ref 47 – No publisher or website listed
- Ref 48 – No publisher or website listed
- Ref 49 – No publisher or website listed
- Ref 51 – Note as needing a subscription
- Ref 56 – Mark link as being down
- Ref 62 – Add author
- Studio albums table missing column scopes
- Extended plays table missing column scopes
I focused mostly on consistency and possible missing parameters from references. Please ping me when the above has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi! Thanks for taking up your time in thoroughly checking the references. I have addressed them and linked their respective diffs below.
Ref 5 – Link to ABS-CBN Entertainment
- Done.
Ref 15 – Remove piping on ABS-CBN News, as it currently links to the ABS-CBN instead
- Done.
Ref 11 – Link to SunStar
- Done.
Ref 12 – No publisher or website listed
- Done.
Refs 12, 20, 47, 48, 49, 52 – Remove "on Apple Music" from the title
- Done.
Ref 17 – Add publish date
- Done.
Ref 20 – Unnecessarily marked as dead, needs to be marked as live
- Done.
Ref 29 – Add author
- Done.
Ref 33 – Change website to ABS-CBN News
- Done.
Ref 33 – Add publish date
- Done.
Ref 37 – Add author
- Done.
Ref 46 – Add author and publish date
- Done. With typo correction in revision 1277819657.
Ref 47 – No publisher or website listed
- Done.
Ref 48 – No publisher or website listed
- Done.
Ref 49 – No publisher or website listed
- Done.
Ref 51 – Note as needing a subscription
- Done.
Ref 56 – Mark link as being down
- Done. Just updated the URL, but it's not down. It seems that the website changed their dating of their chart weeks.
Ref 62 – Add author
- Done.
Studio albums table missing column scopes
- Done.
Extended plays table missing column scopes
- Done.
- AstrooKai (Talk) 22:18, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- pinging Hey man im josh, I think they forgot to ping you. ROY is WAR Talk! 12:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks @Royiswariii.
- I fixed one link that was broken in a reference, but other than that the formatting looks fine now. Support based on formatting. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- pinging Hey man im josh, I think they forgot to ping you. ROY is WAR Talk! 12:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC) [18].[reply]
- Nominator(s): ArturSik (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A comprehensive and well-sourced list, in my opinion now fully meets FL criteria. Previous nomination was failed due to a short lead, which I have since expanded. I hope my revisions will satisfy previous opponents. ArturSik (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source and image review from TheDoctorWho
Figured I'd go ahead and take care of this:
- List only has one image which is extracted from a file uploaded to Flickr under a CC-BY license. This image has a caption and alt text.
- Not a requirement by any means, but {{Infobox awards list}} is a thing if it's helpful to you.
- Replaced. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd like to see just a bit more consistency across citations. For example, reference 2 and 3 are from the same source, but one uses {{Cite news}} and the other uses {{Cite web}}. One also includes publisher and location data while the other doesn't.
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 2 also has an incorrectly formatted dates
- Ahh, yes been recently working on an article about an American and my brain didn't switch back to DMY. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Similarly, refs 12 and 13 lack publisher data which is included in references from the same website earlier on.
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 17 needs
url-access=subscription
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 24 is a deadlink
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 26, same issue as 12/13
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 35 is still a live link
- This one also needs
url-access=subscription
- This one also needs
- Both fixed. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 37, same issues as 12/13/26 (just from a different website)
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 42 is a deadlink
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, whattowatch -> what'sontv (the link should be fine, just needs piped to what the website appeared as at the time)
- It was "What's on TV" as correctly stated, unless I'm missing something. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks correct to me know, might have incorrectly read something yesterday. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:32, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- It was "What's on TV" as correctly stated, unless I'm missing something. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a mix of title and sentence case across various references, this script should help.
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Spot checked references 3, 8, 16, 21, 27, 30, 38, and 42; everything appears to check out
TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:43, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you TheDoctorWho, I believe all your comments have been addressed and changes made where appropriate. ArturSik (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Great work, source and image reviews pass! TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:32, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you TheDoctorWho, I believe all your comments have been addressed and changes made where appropriate. ArturSik (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "she starred in television dramas: Ordinary Lies (2015) and Our Girl (2016–2020)." => "she starred in the television dramas Ordinary Lies (2015) and Our Girl (2016–2020)."
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- As the table is sortable, works (eg Corrie) should be linked each time, not just the first time
- Done. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Should the category "Favourite Newcomer to Irish" not be "Favourite Newcomer to Irish TV".......?
- That's how they named the category per the source. The way I interpret it is "Favourite Newcomer to the Irish / Irish public". ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "In 2009, they were renamed "TV Choice Awards" and are presented only by TV Choice." - tenses are a bit mangled here. I would suggest "In 2009, they were renamed "TV Choice Awards" and have subsequently been presented only by TV Choice."
- Well spotted, changed it. Thank you. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The sort order on the result tables goes Won > Nominated > 5th place > 2nd place, which doesn't seem right because surely a numbered "place" is better than a mere nomination, and 2nd place is certainly better than 5th
- Hmm, that's how they're sorted by default. Not sure there's anything I can do to change this. Any suggestions? ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I sorted it with this edit. Quicker to just do it than type out an explanation :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:30, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, that's how they're sorted by default. Not sure there's anything I can do to change this. Any suggestions? ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Think that's all I got, other than to note what a different time it was when major awards ceremonies included "sexiest" categories..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I know, right. Many thanks for your comments ChrisTheDude. Much appreciated. I believe all have been addressed. ArturSik (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:32, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
MPGuy2824
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
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as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead. - Some of the primary cells in each row span multiple rows, so
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needs to be used instead of!scope=row
. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- Some of the award years have articles of their own, and should be linked. e.g. 2012 British Soap Awards. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you MPGuy2824, changes made per your suggestions. ArturSik (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support on table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:49, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you MPGuy2824, changes made per your suggestions. ArturSik (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first 15 or so years of this tournament attracted a lost of press coverage, but more recent sources are much harder to find. This is in a similar format to List of UK Open Billiards Championship winners. As ever, all improvement suggestions are welcome and I can provide relevant extracts from offline sources to reviewers. Thank you. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Drive-by comment: the two 2014 rows don't sort correctly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, ChrisTheDude. I think this is now fixed. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Image review and some comments
- File:Women's Amateur Billiards Championship finalists 1931.png: PD(due to age)
- File:Women's Billiards Association awards 1948.jpg: PD(due to age)
- File:Maureen Barrett 1953.png: PD(due to age)
- File:Karen Corr.jpg: CC by 2.0(checked by wikipedia commons reviewer)(attributed by both name and link)
- File:Ms. Anuja Prakash Thakur for Billiards & Snooker, in 2006 (cropped).jpg: used under the license provided by the GoI(which states attribution must be given, including the url-which has been done)
Question- given that the PD images are PD only bcs the authors aren't known- how deep was your check?
- I didn't find the PD images in an online search, or at either paimages.co.uk or alamy.com. None of the images has any credit attached where they were published. If there are any other steps I shoudl take, please let me know. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- No, what I meant was one seems to be from a magazine, and two from a newspaper, so did you check properly to find a name- bcs like in the case of magazines, it could be at the end of it or something too, along with that of every other image in said magazine(just want to make sure, as sometimes the attributed author can be specified in unusual places. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, yes, I did. It would be unusual for a UK newspaper to have picture credits somewhere other than close to the image, and I couldn't find any for those. The Billiard Player almost never included picture credits, and there was none for the image used here. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- No, what I meant was one seems to be from a magazine, and two from a newspaper, so did you check properly to find a name- bcs like in the case of magazines, it could be at the end of it or something too, along with that of every other image in said magazine(just want to make sure, as sometimes the attributed author can be specified in unusual places. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General comments:
- Why are the early tournaments all(except 1934) ending in a 1000-something? A specific format?
- Yes, billiards matches are either to a target score (e.g 1000) or timed (e.g. 3 hours). BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Woww, years where the event was held but the score and opponent isn't known-is the coverage that bad?
- Yes, I checked the various WikiLibrary Sources including Newspapers.com, the British Newspaper Archive, and quite a few books. Even Snooker Scene magazine, edited by billiards enthusiast Clive Everton has very brief coverage of the 1970s tournaments. Even the Billiards Association and Control Council handbooks that list winners don't have the runners-up listed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Some prose about how points work, or the specific formats might be good? (And some about billiards too, unless that seems unnecessarily detailed to you)
- I added a little right at the start of the intro, which I think helps. Let me know what you think. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BennyOnTheLoose, that's the end of my review. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 20:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you, DoctorWhoFan91. Let me know if you have any further comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm satisfied with the changes, a support from me. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "In 1930, British cue sports company Burroughes and Watts" => "In 1930, the British cue sports company Burroughes and Watts"
- "The first rounds would be played at regional venues" - of the professional version, presumably? The last thing you mentioned was the amateur version so there is ambiguity here
- Thelma Carpenter's name is spelt wrong on the second mention
- "before turning professional and going on to compete in the Women's Professional Billiards Championship." - I am confused now as to which competition this list is actually talking about. The very first sentence talks about the Professional Championship, so I assumed it was that. But now I think maybe it's actually the amateur version? I note also that you don't clarify when whichever tournament it is became the "World Championship"
- Reworked the intro a bit, hopefully it is clearer and addresses that glaring omission. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:31, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- If Women's Professional Billiards Championship does indeed need to be mentioned in the lead twice, it doesn't need to be linked twice
- "Vera Seals, a receptionist from Chesterfield that had learnt the game" => "Vera Seals, a receptionist from Chesterfield who had learnt the game"
- Can you add a few words to clarify who Joe Davis actually was?
- "Maureen Baynton (Née Barrett)" - no need for capital N
- First image caption doesn't need a full stop
- Second image caption doesn't need a comma after (left to right) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:35, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- MPGuy2824
- Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987
becomes!scope=row | 1987
(on its own line). Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. - The ref column should be unsortable.
- The Final score column sorts in a weird way (in descending order 700, then 200, then 1000). Please fix.
- I think it would better if the "Not held" cell is centered wherever it occurs.
- The images in the lead need alt texts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 16:00, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Row scopes on primary column
This applies to the "Wins by player" table as well. The Player name cell would be good for this. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:10, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]- Thanks, MPGuy2824. Please let me know if anything else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:42, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 18:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, MPGuy2824. Please let me know if anything else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:42, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- If sources are available online they should all be linked.
- Access dates should be added as well to online sources.
- The only ones I can see without this now are the links to Newspapers.com and I don't think an access date is needed for them, is it? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Also archive should be added as well to online sources.
- Done, except that is seem like it's not feasible to archive the Newspapers.com sources - see Wikipedia_talk:Featured_list_candidates#Question,_re:_Internet_Archive. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Publication dates should be added as well to online sources.
- Is there a way to find this out if it's not mentioned on the page (e.g. https://www.ibsf.info/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=71:past-champions)? I'm not aware of one. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- "The 1948 Women's Billiards Association awards ceremony." doesn't need a period.
- What do you suggest? I don't think that omitting punctuation before the "Pictured (left to right)..." will work.
- Are there sources for notes c and d.
- There's not a source that states this, so I've added examples. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Many thanks History6042. I've responded to the points above. Let me know if more work is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:47, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Many thanks History6042. I've responded to the points above. Let me know if more work is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 19:10, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:09, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I think it is at a similar level to the Toronto guide, nomintaed by me, which has two supports currently. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:09, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: I am pinging to ask if this is ready to be closed as you have closed these before. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:14, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "with a Michelin-star rating" - link Michelin star and also remove the hyphen, there's no reason for that to be there
- I feel like the lead would benefit from a tiny bit more information that's specific to Turkey rather than just generic and identical to all other such lists. I would suggest mentioning the increasing number of starred restaurants over the year and namechecking the single restaurant with two stars
- That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Drive-by comment
- ref 2 and 3 are the same. Please merge.
- Adding publish dates for the various refs would be nice. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional Comments
- Image: This page needs a high-quality image of one of the featured restaurants.
- Cuisine links: There are four restaurants that have Contemporary and Fusion listed as the cuisine that are unlinked. I think many readers would not know what these mean without a link similar to the other cuisines. Typically, Contemporary refers to New American cuisine but that may not be the case. Does Contemporary mean New American or does this mean modern/new Turkish cuisine? All four of these restaurants are active starred restaurants so information is likely readily available on the Michelin guide site.
- Culinary scene: The introductory paragraphs should ideally contain more information about the dining scene in Turkey, notable chefs from Turkey, etc.
- References. The date formats are inconsistent. Some are MDY and others are DMY.
Expandinglight5 (talk) 21:41, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, all except I couldn't find a restaurant picture so I got one of the chef instead. For cuisine links, from what I could find, contemporary seems to just mean modern/new. @Expandinglight5 History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:35, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- For Kitchen, the description on the MG website [1] says, it's a unique take on Turkish cuisine. Should the cuisine say" Modern Turkish "? For Macakasi, MG calls it modern cuisine however the Macakasi's own website describes their cuisine as "Mediterranean style" Forbes magazine [2] describes it has roots in "Turkish home cuisine." Araka's website [3] descrbies their own cooking as "Modern Turkish cuisine." What do you think?
- Expandinglight5 (talk) 20:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC) Expandinglight5 (talk) 20:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, changed all to Modern Turkish except Macakasi which I switched to Mediterranean. @Expandinglight5 History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:04, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good. Support Expandinglight5 (talk) 03:58, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
References
IntentionallyDense
- Source Review
- Some of the publishers are linked and others aren't. I'd recommend linking all of the publishers for consistency.
- Optional but consider adding an archived link for [21].
- All sources seem appropriately reliable
- No issues wit veribility. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 03:01, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, @IntentionallyDense. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:50, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Pass for the source review. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 17:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TheDoctorWho
I see a source review has technically already passed, but I have some additional comments regarding sources that are based on this revision:
- Ref 1: Michelin Guide should be removed as the author
- Ref 1: Michelin Guide can be linked in the website field
- Ref 2: Link CNN
- Ref 3: Missing the date published
- Ref 3: Add Michelin as the publisher
- Ref 4: Missing the date published
- Ref 4: Add Michelin as the publisher
- Ref 5: Link Auguste Escoffier School of Culinary Arts
- Ref 6: link The Guardian
- Ref 9: Link the website to Bloomberg News
- Ref 9: Change the publisher and link to Bloomberg L.P.
TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, @TheDoctorWho. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice job, happy to support. TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:36, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NØ
- "They were designed as a guide to tell drivers about eateries they recommended to visit and to subtly sponsor their tires, by encouraging drivers to use their cars more and therefore need to replace the tires as they wore out." - I am not sure the comma before by is necessary.
- Other than that, all of the list text is written in a professional quality of English and is easy to understand.
- The lead is comprehensive and provides a good base for readers to understand the table included underneath. As someone who has not been to Turkey, after reading the lead, I was able to understand exactly what the Michelin star rating is and also the specific context of how it applies to restaurants in Turkey.
- Comprehensiveness: The lead text has a variety of sources cited inline, which demonstrates a thorough research of the literature relevant to the topic. Efforts have been undertaken to make this comprehensive and quality information is being provided to readers. The list is comprehensive for the scope defined by the title, provides any of the information readers would be curious about and should have, and it includes more than eight items.
- Structure: The list has a straightforward structure, which is easy to navigate. It is not overloaded with text and does not have any other hindrance which would get in the way of easy browsing.
- Style: The list has a quality image which enhance the appeal of the surrounding text and includes alt text for greater accessibility. Clicking on the articles for these individual restaurants, it seems images of them are not available to be displayed here. But clicking some pictures might be something you are interested in exploring if you ever visit Turkey.
- Overall, I can support this list.--NØ 09:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you, I removed the comma. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from LEvalyn
- This explanation feels awfully long and winding:
They were designed as a guide to tell drivers about eateries they recommended to visit and to subtly sponsor their tires by encouraging drivers to use their cars more and therefore need to replace the tires as they wore out.
What about something more concise and direct like "They were designed as a guide about eateries worth driving to, which would subtly increase Michelin tire sales by encouraging drivers to wear out their tires through more and longer trips." ? - I was confused by
The Guide originally launched in 2023
-- contextually, "The Guide" must refer to some Turkish-specific guide, but that information hasn't been introduced. - Organizationally, I think it would be better to have all the Turkey-specific information together in one paragraph. (So, the current paragraph 2, and also the info at the end of paragraph 3.) Personally I'd place that info as the second paragraph (since it's more important to this specific article), but it could also work as the last paragraph.
Otherwise, everything looks very good. The list itslf is clearly organized, well-sourced, and comprehensive in its scope. It's easy to understand all the relevant details of the list. Good work! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:56, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, @LEvalyn. ~ History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking great, happy to support! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 00:15, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 19:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 09:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating the 1985 Oscars for featured list because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 1929, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 ceremonies were written. Birdienest81talk 09:37, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
- There are 7 harv warnings, all of which need to be fixed.
- "Robert Towne was credited as P. H. Vazak" has no inline citation.
- "The telecast garnered 38.9 million viewers in the United States." needs a source because the text trying to support it outside of the lede says something different. It is "garnered 38.9 million viewers in the United States." compared to "an average of 38.9 million people over the length of the entire ceremony."
- "For this first time in Oscar history," -> "For the first time in Oscar history,"
- "actor Jack Lemmon would would" has a double "would".
- "Jack's untiring energy, zest for living, zest for living and imaginative talents" has a double "zest for living".
- Ping me when done please. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:20, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042: I've fixed most of everything except the harv warnings. I don't know how to fix those errors unless you know of a different method to cite multiple times from the same book. As for the ratings, since the source is the only one I have supporting those figures (TVbythenumbers was once owned by the same company that once owned the Chicago Tribune) does not explicitly mention viewers in the United States or that it was based on an average, I just slightly tweaked the sentence.
- --Birdienest81talk 22:01, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, you did good but I cannot support an article with 7 harv warnings, oppose (no longer oppose). I will change this to a support if you can fix them. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:09, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you know how to fix to the Harv warnings? I don’t know how to do so. Birdienest81talk 22:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042: Your oppose is rather vague here and unhelpful to the nominator or anyone trying to make the corrections in good faith. These warnings do not appear at all in the default interface and aren't apparent from what I can see; consider trying to use your feedback as an educational opportunity rather than being overly critical. SounderBruce 22:58, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @SounderBruce, they are appearing for me in yellow/orange text. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- These warnings are produced by a script. In the future, be sure to mention which script you are seeing warnings in, and specifically where they are; in this case, a more helpful comment would have been "Citation 13 has several warnings that were highlighted in this script that state "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named." It is much easier to resolve issues when there's clearer communication. SounderBruce 02:01, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @SounderBruce, they are appearing for me in yellow/orange text. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:54, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042: I have fixed the single reference error. The remaining are warnings, which are displayed by a user script you installed, and which happen to be false positives here – caused by using multiple citation templates inside a single reference footnote, which is permitted by WP:BUNDLING and does not violate the featured list criteria. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:01, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, sorry I did not realize that it was a script. I will change this to a support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "The Sacramento Bee's George Williams It was a classy show all the way" - something's gone awry here
- "He criticized the decision to cut off various winner's speeches" => "He criticized the decision to cut off various winners' speeches"
- "Moreover, the show drew lower Nielsen ratings compared to the previous ceremony" - "moreover" would seem to imply that the actual viewing figure was also down, but as you don't actually say that the word is just sort of weirdly there not doing anything. I would either clarify the situation with regard to viewing figures or just lose the word "moreover"
- That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:32, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Done - I read your comments and have made the appropriate corrections based on them.
- --Birdienest81talk 09:19, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I see that you have changed "moreover" to "also", but that doesn't really change the sense of the sentence. Saying "The show also garnered lower Nielsen ratings compared to the previous ceremony," only really makes sense if the audience figure mentioned in the previous sentence was lower than the previous year's figure. If it was, then state that explicitly. If it wasn't, then remove the "also" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: I added the lower to the viewership figures since the reference used to support the sentence shows a table of Oscar ratings figures clearing indicating a decline in audience size compared to the previous year.
- I see that you have changed "moreover" to "also", but that doesn't really change the sense of the sentence. Saying "The show also garnered lower Nielsen ratings compared to the previous ceremony," only really makes sense if the audience figure mentioned in the previous sentence was lower than the previous year's figure. If it was, then state that explicitly. If it wasn't, then remove the "also" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:23, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
This review is based on this version of the article.
Source review: Pending
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent and proper reference formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for
Feedback:
- Ref 7 – Add wikilink to Los Angeles Times
- Ref 9 – I'm seeing June 14 instead of June 13 listed as the date
- Ref 19 – Note as needing a subscription to access
- Ref 35 – Change the publisher to match the target (Academy of Television Arts & Sciences)
- Would it be possible to get some of these entries that are mentioned by page number and publication as Newspapers.com links? For instance, I believe The Sacramento Bee is available there based on a source I've retrieved in the past.
Please ping me when the above has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: I am almost done addressing your comments. For reference nine, I do see "13 June" at the top of the page underneath the article title. For the Rolling Stone ref (19), there is no need for subscription to access, but rather they encourage readers to disable their ad blockers to allow for display of advertisements due to revenue. I'm trying to clip the articles I have found on Newspapers.com as much as possible, although some do not allow me to unless there is a subscription. That's where things stand as of now.
- --Birdienest81talk 00:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough if you see "13 June" instead, I understand it may render different depending on one's timezone. As for the Rolling Stone reference, I'm seeing it cut off after "Purple Rain film and soundtrack were among the biggest hits of 1984.", with it saying to subscribe now / log in. This is with no ad blocker enabled. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: I've finished making clippings for the articles from Newspapers.com though the archiving tool refuses to let me archive them. I think that sentence you mentioned in the Rolling Stone article was the last one as there is no subscribe now/log in page where I am unless this depends on location (I am accessing this from the United States), but I guess this is minor so I added the warning. I've also added links to the books that are available on the Internet Archive (although one of them had the book made unavailable due to copyright disputes, the Vincent Terrance one, so I omitted that). Also linked authors with their own Wikipedia pages.
- --Birdienest81talk 22:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Good stuff @Birdienest81. A few points:
- You added
[[Ancestry.com|Newspapers.com]]
instead of just linking to Newspapers.com. Typically it'd be better to link to Newspapers.com, especially considering there's a good chance the article actually gets created some day. - Ref 6 – Add Associated Press as the agency
- Ref 25 – Links to a disambiguation for Liz Smith. Target should be fixed.
- Ref 34 – Add Associated Press as the agency
- Ref 29 – It's "Williams" for the last name instead of "William"
- You added
- That should be all I have I think. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:11, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: Done - I've made all the adjustments plus a one more. I've corrected the ISBN number for the Franks source since it was initially giving a different book source. Birdienest81talk 20:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry but I've got more again @Birdienest81.
- I've noticed that the first table under the films with multiple nominations and awards doesn't have row scopes in all the places it should.
- The performers table is also missing column scopes.
- I thiiiiink that should end up being it this time. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: Unfortunately I don't know how to do that. Can someone do it for me? And I won't be able to address your comments until Tuesday because of this year's Oscars.
- Sorry but I've got more again @Birdienest81.
- @Hey man im josh: Done - I've made all the adjustments plus a one more. I've corrected the ISBN number for the Franks source since it was initially giving a different book source. Birdienest81talk 20:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: I've finished making clippings for the articles from Newspapers.com though the archiving tool refuses to let me archive them. I think that sentence you mentioned in the Rolling Stone article was the last one as there is no subscribe now/log in page where I am unless this depends on location (I am accessing this from the United States), but I guess this is minor so I added the warning. I've also added links to the books that are available on the Internet Archive (although one of them had the book made unavailable due to copyright disputes, the Vincent Terrance one, so I omitted that). Also linked authors with their own Wikipedia pages.
- Fair enough if you see "13 June" instead, I understand it may render different depending on one's timezone. As for the Rolling Stone reference, I'm seeing it cut off after "Purple Rain film and soundtrack were among the biggest hits of 1984.", with it saying to subscribe now / log in. This is with no ad blocker enabled. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Image review from Arconning
- File:Oscar-1984.jpg - Fair use
- File:Saul Zaentz with Oscar 1976 (cropped).jpg - CC BY 4.0
- File:Milos Forman.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:F Murray.Abraham cropped.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Sally Field (11205) (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Haing S. Ngor, 1986.jpg - CC BY 4.0
- File:Peggy-Ashcroft-1936-3.jpg - Public Domain, source link needs to be fixed WP:V, could add a caption signifying what year Ashcroft was depicted in as a statement within the body of the article relates her win to her age.
- File:Peter Shaffer, 1966.jpg - Public Domain
- File:Rob Epstein (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Prince 1981.jpg - Public Domain
- File:Stevie Wonder 1994.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Todd3 lighter.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Richard Emerson Smith (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Theodor Pištěk (2017).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Dennis Muren.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.5, source link needs to be fixed
- File:Jack Lemmon - 1968.jpg - Public Domain, source link needs to be fixed
- Alt-text seem okay, captions are relevant and all good except for the one that needs to be addressed. All images are relevant to the article.
- Here are my comments! Arconning (talk) 13:49, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Done with some points:
- Found a different photo of Ashcroft with a source that is not dead. Added the year of photo in caption.
- Modified url to an archived one using Wayback Machine that has the photo of Dennis Muren in question.
- Changed photo of Jack Lemmon to one with a proper link.
- @Arconning: Everything should be fixed
- --Birdienest81talk 20:16, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per image review. Arconning (talk) 08:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the accessibility issues myself. Promoting. --PresN 19:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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